2015 Beemer

**sidecar bob** · 4th January 2015, 10:06

Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner

Oh fuck off honestly. Who gives a shit why it's called what it's called. It's a fucking good bike even if it's cashing in on nostalgia - guess what, that's what people want.

With your shitty attitude, apparent dislike of virtually everything and busy-body approach to over-safety, I often wonder why you are even here. Do you actually care about motorcycling? Or are you just a sad, lonely, pathetic negative-nancy?

How much more wrong about a bloke could you possibly be? You're a bit of a tool yourself to be perfectly honest.

**Woodman** · 4th January 2015, 11:48

Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner

Oh fuck off honestly. Who gives a shit why it's called what it's called. It's a fucking good bike even if it's cashing in on nostalgia - guess what, that's what people want.

With your shitty attitude, apparent dislike of virtually everything and busy-body approach to over-safety, I often wonder why you are even here. Do you actually care about motorcycling? Or are you just a sad, lonely, pathetic negative-nancy?

Do you need to try a new laxative?

**Gremlin** · 4th January 2015, 22:41

Originally Posted by Ocean1

I can't work out why they haven't made them with adjustable ride-height. A wee actuator in the linkage / forks is hardly expensive or technically difficult. Could organise it to drop 3" if in road mode and below 5kph...

GS has adjustable ride height in two ways already. Seat has two settings, and if fitted with ESA that also affects the rear ride height. Then you have other seats available...

**Ocean1** · 5th January 2015, 17:49

Originally Posted by Gremlin

GS has adjustable ride height in two ways already. Seat has two settings, and if fitted with ESA that also affects the rear ride height. Then you have other seats available...

I think I knew that, but I was proposing using the same actuators for an auto-squat function. For those afflicted with duck's disease.

**sidecar bob** · 5th January 2015, 19:45

Originally Posted by Gremlin

GS has adjustable ride height in two ways already. Seat has two settings, and if fitted with ESA that also affects the rear ride height. Then you have other seats available...

Your one would be an inch higher than mine out of the box being an A, but they're not difficult to ride for being tall.
They look worse than they are until you get on them, a bit like a Rocket 3 in a completely different way.

**Gremlin** · 5th January 2015, 20:17

Dunno what the shorties could complain about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFyw57o_Ic
(bah, can't seem to embed)

Yep, once on the move, they have excellent handling, weight down low etc. I can do around 8-10kph, uphill, 2up before I'm reaching for the clutch to control...

**sidecar bob** · 5th January 2015, 20:23

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Dunno what the shorties could complain about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFyw57o_Ic
(bah, can't seem to embed)

Yep, once on the move, they have excellent handling, weight down low etc. I can do around 8-10kph, uphill, 2up before I'm reaching for the clutch to control...

That is style in the extreme. Almost wish I was short so I could perfect that technique.

**Ocean1** · 5th January 2015, 20:39

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Yep, once on the move, they have excellent handling, weight down low etc. I can do around 8-10kph, uphill, 2up before I'm reaching for the clutch to control...

Aye, I've done a fair few Ks on an A, but you miss the point: There doesn't have to be a pressing need for an engineer to "improve" shit.

**AllanB** · 6th January 2015, 06:12

Off road skills?

**haydes55** · 6th January 2015, 09:58

This video is more relevant https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tjnTNOlKy-M

Yes it's the mobile link, I'm on my phone.

**JimmyC** · 9th January 2015, 15:05

Originally Posted by AllanB

I stood next to a fully kitted GS BMW the other day. The sales man must have thought I was keen (he mistook the dropping of my jaw in shock at it's size as desire) he changed his mind when I asked where the ladder was......... funny thing sales, see he gave up then, but in that situation I'd have steered me towards one of their smaller bikes for a perve or at least ask what I was interested in/rode etc - get the bike chat going.

BMW dealers are a strange breed by my findings... I'd just attended the GS Experience run over in Melbourne and decided to go see the dealer in the CBD that had put the event on. I explained I'd been to the event and started talking about the bikes I'd ridden. After only 2 minutes he was looking at other staff whilst I was talking to him, and any input from him became limited to 2 or 3 words. Indeed I had been dismissed.

I went and chatted with another BMW dealer in the upper Nth Island over Christmas (one that I won't name) as I'm planning on moving to the region this year. Asked about planned rides, places to ride off road etc... What I got was how hard is to do bike events in the weekend and run a store, that bikes 24x7 is extremely tiring and he finds it really tough... !? I left feeling decidedly flat and tired myself.

OTOH I test rode an F800GS from Motomart in Lower Hutt late last year and that couldn't have gone better. 1 out of 3 ain't bad I guess.

When it comes to riding though, their bigger 1200 bikes seem to be reverse engineered with Tardis componentry. The do appear huge on the outside but disappear once moving... weird.

**awa355** · 17th January 2015, 14:45

Originally Posted by JimmyC

BMW dealers are a strange breed by my findings... I'd just attended the GS Experience run over in Melbourne and decided to go see the dealer in the CBD that had put the event on. I explained I'd been to the event and started talking about the bikes I'd ridden. After only 2 minutes he was looking at other staff whilst I was talking to him, and any input from him became limited to 2 or 3 words. Indeed I had been dismissed.

I went and chatted with another BMW dealer in the upper Nth Island over Christmas (one that I won't name) as I'm planning on moving to the region this year. Asked about planned rides, places to ride off road etc... What I got was how hard is to do bike events in the weekend and run a store, that bikes 24x7 is extremely tiring and he finds it really tough... !? I left feeling decidedly flat and tired myself..

Haven't got that on your own. Pulled up outside the Hamilton BMW/Ducati dealer a week or two back, never got a "Hello, how can I help". Two salespeople stayed at their desks. After a few minutes I got the distinct impression that I was cluttering up their show room floor and left. Went across the road to Boyds Suzuki and talked bikes with them for a good 1/2hr. I'm going back there next week to have a serious look at a bike.

**sidecar bob** · 18th January 2015, 09:24

Originally Posted by awa355

Haven't got that on your own. Pulled up outside the Hamilton BMW/Ducati dealer a week or two back, never got a "Hello, how can I help". Two salespeople stayed at their desks. After a few minutes I got the distinct impression that I was cluttering up their show room floor and left. Went across the road to Boyds Suzuki and talked bikes with them for a good 1/2hr. I'm going back there next week to have a serious look at a bike.

Boyds are BMW Suzuki & KTM, but not sure who this BMW Ducati outfit is.
I have never experienced better or more personable service from such a happy & involved team of enthusiasts as what I got at Boyds. I doubt there would be a better place in NZ to buy a new BMW.

**BMWST?** · 24th January 2015, 09:21

in my experience all bmw bike dealers have been good. i dont mind wandering around a shop looking if no one comes up to me,i find as soon as i start looking for them they notice.They prolly have more people "looking" than others??