Cancer and the drug companies

[TheDemonLord]

Try "nature" - it was here before we got here - probably/hopefully still be here when we are all gone!

99% of every species that ever lived is extinct - sounds like a pretty shitty system....

[Edbear]

Here Ed, you got what you were after!
Are you guys brothers with a bit of a barrier between?

Haha! He just continues to prove me right about him. He never posts anything on the subject itself. He exists solely to diss me. I'm not sure what the attraction is but for some reason I am irresistible to him and he follows me everywhere like a sick puppy.

How the hell do you work that one out?

No offence to Mrs Pie, but you haven't got a clue about what others on here have experienced or are indeed experiencing.

Spoken as one who judges in ignorance. You know neither me nor Katie.

[unstuck]

HOW WHOLE TURMERIC HEALS THE DAMAGED BRAIN. http://myscienceacademy.org/2014/10/...damaged-brain/

I think you need to eat a truckload Ed.

[BuzzardNZ]

I'm not sure what the attraction is but for some reason I am irresistible to him and he follows me everywhere like a sick puppy.

You seem to have a number of loyal KB groupies Ed, what's your secret?

[bogan]

Spoken as one who judges in ignorance. You know neither me nor Katie.

I think his point was that you don't know everyone else, just as everyone else doesn't know you or katie. Ie, he knows his own ignorance, you still seem to be judging from yours...

[Katman]

HOW WHOLE TURMERIC HEALS THE DAMAGED BRAIN. http://myscienceacademy.org/2014/10/...damaged-brain/

I think you need to eat a truckload Ed.

Cayenne Pepper is another remarkable spice.

As with Turmeric though, it's not patented by a pharmaceutical company so I can't imagine Ed being at all interested.

[Banditbandit]

Does it mean that Gravity doesn't exist?

No it doesn't mean that Gravity does not exist - but "Gravity" is just a word ... how do you know it actually has any connection to reality??? It appears to .. but it is just the best explanation at this time ... it may not have any connection to "truth" ...

yet our flawed knowledge of Gravity is sufficient for launch satellites into orbit (which not even you moon landing deniers can deny) - so yes Science has no absolutes, but there is no other system that has produced better results for humanity and has an inbuilt error checking and correcting mechanism.

/rant

So - you are basing the acceptance of Science on a Use value .. or maybe a value judgement ??? Science is based on a value judgement ???

Show me another system that produces the results that Science has and we can argue about the philosophy of Science.

You seem to be accepting Lakatos' position ... the test of a science research project is whether it is producing results or not. That's definitely a use value/value judgement basis ... even Lakatos admits there is no way to prove "truth" ..

I'm with Feyerabend ... there is no real truth basis for science .. anything goes ...

[Edbear]

You seem to have a number of loyal KB groupies Ed, what's your secret?

I dunno, mate. It would be nice if these pathetic individuals would actually post something of substance on the topic.

I think his point was that you don't know everyone else, just as everyone else doesn't know you or katie. Ie, he knows his own ignorance, you still seem to be judging from yours...

Do please, point out any inaccuracies in my posts. Something those in opposition to me can't seem to do. You know, like quote a post and analyse it. In your case, especially, I would expect you to use peer reviewed scientific data.

[bogan]

Do please, point out any inaccuracies in my posts. Something those in opposition to me can't seem to do. You know, like quote a post and analyse it. In your case, especially, I would expect you to use peer reviewed scientific data.

I just did, why not start by addressing that.

You've not posted anything of substance that is worthy of a peer review rebuttal, all you've done is slag off conspiracy theorists for the same shit you do to justify your cultist ways.

[bogan]

No it doesn't mean that Gravity does not exist - but "Gravity" is just a word ... how do you know it actually has any connection to reality??? It appears to .. but it is just the best explanation at this time ... it may not have any connection to "truth" ...



So - you are basing the acceptance of Science on a Use value .. or maybe a value judgement ??? Science is based on a value judgement ???



You seem to be accepting Lakatos' position ... the test of a science research project is whether it is producing results or not. That's definitely a use value/value judgement basis ... even Lakatos admits there is no way to prove "truth" ..

I'm with Feyerabend ... there is no real truth basis for science .. anything goes ...

Don't be a cunt, science is facts in evolution, since omnipotence is not an option it is the best we've got; and it's a fucking good one considering how much we've done with it. Image just how loud you'd have to yell in 'pre-science' days to talk to me from there.

If you ask me, jesus died to start the scientific revolution.

[caspernz]

The one overlooked aspect in all of this is state of mind. Plenty of examples on KB that cover the entire spectrum

[Katman]

The one overlooked aspect in all of this is state of mind.

I think Unstuck covered that back on page 5.

[Edbear]

More for the conspiracy theorists to chew on.

I was with another alternative therapies advocate over the weekend, and as soon as he started talking I pegged him as a conspiracy theorist. I was right of course as I have yet to find an exponent of alternative medicine who claims the drug companies are squashing cures for cancer, who isn't a conspiracy theorist.

However, what seems so bleeding obvious that these people can't undrstand is that in every claim of a therapy that "definitely cures cancer, and there are hundreds of cases proving it!" Not one requires drug companies to develop it.

All examples, like Black Salve, infusions of Vitamin. C and so on are freely available as evidenced by the sheer number of sufferers trying them!

If these alternative therapies genuinely cured cancer, everyone would be using them and getting cured without needing the conventional therapies like Radiation, surgery and Chemo.

My visitor claimed that only 2% survive beyond 5 years with conventional treatment but the figure was 30% for alternative therapies. Absolute bollox of course.

In short, if there existed a cure for cancer, cancer would be cured. I guarantee you, though, the conspiracy theorists/anti drug exponents will not be able to accept this. Just like any conspiracy theory, they will never change their blind minds.

Isn't it funny just how far from the OP the thread has become? It's like few have actually read this and understood what it says so plainly.

Sorry, of course! This is KB after all...

There has been some really good posting by members on here that should be taken note of, but a few plainly betray their incomprehension to all.

[Paul in NZ]

The irony being not trusting science to produce good drugs but lusting after the latest and greatest carbon fibre dripping, expensive alloy and ceramic built, multi cylinder high tech bikes with sophisticated electronics and fuel injection... Science had no part in that shit....

[Edbear]

Tumeric and or olive oil. Healthy attitude and lots of laughs. Unless you already CHOOSE to hold the belief that cancer is incurable. Find ways to raise your vibration and that shit can't touch you, oh, and Ed's a plonker.

Unstuck lives a charmed life, nothing can touch him because he's in tune with the Universe. His vibrator ensures this...