This cunt got what he deserved!

[98tls]

Fuck me, could you possibly let your imagination run any further?

What a fucking moronic post.

Fuck me this from the cunt that wrote the book titled "Lifes a conspiracy".

[unstuck]

I will wait until I know the FULL story before making my final decision and opinion on this matter. There clearly has to be a FULL, UNsensationalist report on this incident out there somewhere, otherwise Ed would not be claiming there is, surely.

[Voltaire]

I will wait until I know the FULL story before making my final decision and opinion on this matter. There clearly has to be a FULL, UNsensationalist report on this incident out there somewhere, otherwise Ed would not be claiming there is, surely.

That's right, its important that us 'movers and shakers' have all the information before making an informed comment on such an illustrious media platform

[unstuck]

That's right, its important that us 'movers and shakers' have all the information before making an informed comment on such an illustrious media platform

How else are we to solve all the worlds dilemmas without knowing the FULL story. As KB members we have a responsibility to fix the world, and make it safer for all.

[TheDemonLord]

Lots to reply to - looks like you all had an arguement without me

If I was a black man in America I'd be scared shitless when being pulled over by the police. Did you see the beating the white fella got the other day? And seeing as all black fellas look the same (insert sarcasm do dacky), I'd be well worried that I was gonna look like the offender they actually wanted and were/are about to bash the living fuck out of me. And why wouldn't you be?

And so running is going to make it better?

Lets engage in some speculation.

Assume for the minute that you are a black man, and you are about to pulled by a nutjob cop, looking to take out his frustration on you.

your options:

Stay, take the beating, Sue the tits off the police (cause of the American justice system)
Now, if you Run - the nutjob cop is now going to have a justification to say you are a criminal and use force - most likely deadly force, and unless you can outrun a bullet, there is no scenario where running from the cops ends well.

However Staying, might result in some short term pain, but ultimately, its less likely to end as badly than if you run.

Are you seriously suggesting that running from the police is justification for being shot dead?

If you are, you're seriously fucked in the head.

In America, with American gun laws and culture - that is exactly what I am saying. Because the police don't know if the runner is armed or not - could they pose a danger to the public? could they pose a danger to other police? All they know is that if they start to run, they are a Criminal (even if they haven't commited any other crimes, running from the cops is a Felony I believe) and if you are prepared to commit a Felony offence, you must be desperate - and desperate people do desperate things.

So yes - if you run from the Police in the US and the officer decides to shoot first and ask questions later, then that is your own dumb fault for running in the first place.

Would that shit fly over here? no, we don't have the problems with Firearms that the US does, that said - each time a fuckwit kills themselves in a Police Car chase - my thoughts are:

"Good Riddance"
and
"That'll teach you not to run from the police"

which is normally at the same time that the Bleeding Heart Brigade start to complain about the poor Criminals rights.

Now for those who think that I am all about the absolute rule of the Police and that the Police are infallible - nothing can be further from the Truth - there is a Time and Place to argue with the Police - its called 'a court' and maybe if less people who were being wrongfully detained or searched ran, and more people knew their rights and then laid charges against the police for Illegal behaviours, then we would see less of this.

FFS, don't red rep him. The cunt had a tanty the last time I did, got rather messy

I don't mind the Neg rep, or people disagreeing with me - Hypocrites who publicly complain about other people doing things to them that they themselves do with reckless abandon however....

[unstuck]

and more people knew their rights and then laid charges against the police for Illegal behaviours, then we would see less of this.

I have been told a few times, "you have the right to sit down and shut your fucking mouth" by asking what my rights were and if I could call a lawyer, so yeah the police are always looking to protect and uphold the laws of the land. Things are a little different these days but complaining about police behavior in the past was usually laughed at.

The times they are a changing though.

[Katman]

Lets engage in some speculation.

Assume for the minute that you are a black man, and you are about to pulled by a nutjob cop, looking to take out his frustration on you.

your options:

Stay, take the beating, Sue the tits off the police (cause of the American justice system)
Now, if you Run - the nutjob cop is now going to have a justification to say you are a criminal and use force - most likely deadly force, and unless you can outrun a bullet, there is no scenario where running from the cops ends well.

However Staying, might result in some short term pain, but ultimately, its less likely to end as badly than if you run.

You sound young.....



.....and rather stupid.

[TheDemonLord]

You sound young.....



.....and rather stupid.

And yet, I am still alive and have not been shot or chased the police, nor have I been arrested - been pulled over/up by police multiple times and have even had an illegal ticket revoked by lodging a complaint to the IPCA

[Edbear]

Rather than take the secret squirrel bullshit (aka "I'm right, you just can't find the stuff that shows it") how about posting your own sources. The onus is not on other people to prove your argument.

That's the thing about suiciders. The ones that just wanna kill themselves, do it. This guy was wandering down a road, shooting a gun in the air, headed towards an office complex. Didn't look like a suicider to me... but perhaps (like, supposedly, Edbear), you know something we don't?

The Police Chief makes the good point here that he was headed toward an office complex, with a loaded gun, and the cop was just making a split second decision before shit went further.

All well and good sitting on your ass in front of a PC saying what he shoulda done, but we don't have adrenaline pumping through our systems.

Being KB it should be naturally expected that certain members cannot help themselves to exaggerate and skew things. Poor dears we should be kind to their inabilities in comprehension. Erylees, Unstuck never fails to amuse with his posts and I would advise taking anything he posts about me with a grain of salt.

Jasonu had no problem finding what he posted and nobody has asked him where he got his info from. I also watched an interview on the news with a guy who is directly involved in addressing these issues in the US. I watched interviews with senior officers and of course, the longer video. The rest of your post I also agree with.

I love this thread - it's got real key-board warriors who have never had/never will have a job where they are faced to figure out what to do with a mobile armed nutter....I'm sure I'll learn a lot from them about how I should do my job!

Scumdog, meet KB...

[Katman]

Jasonu had no problem finding what he posted and nobody has asked him where he got his info from.

Jasonu did nothing more than post a youtube video.

You don't actually have any 'full story', do you Ed?

[unstuck]

Being KB it should be naturally expected that certain members cannot help themselves to exaggerate and skew things. Poor dears we should be kind to their inabilities in comprehension. Erylees, Unstuck never fails to amuse with his posts and I would advise taking anything he posts about me with a grain of salt.

Jasonu had no problem finding what he posted and nobody has asked him where he got his info from. I also watched an interview on the news with a guy who is directly involved in addressing these issues in the US. I watched interviews with senior officers and of course, the longer video. The rest of your post I also agree with.



Scumdog, meet KB...

But still you fail to produce a link to the FULL story, which makes you full of shit. Josonu never said he had the FULL story and posted a social media article. So I have no issue with him claiming something he has no intention or lo and behold the EVIDENCE to back up his claim.

Nice try at sidestepping ANOTHER issue though Ed.

[unstuck]

Jasonu did nothing more than post a youtube video.

You don't actually have any 'full story', do you Ed?

Exactly my point, and no he does not have the FULL story as HE claimed. Which makes him full of shit.

[Katman]

Exactly my point, and no he does not have the FULL story as HE claimed. Which makes him full of shit.

He does have a habit of making it easy for those of us who consider him foolish.

[unstuck]

He does have a habit of making it easy for those of us who consider him foolish.

Yes, quite. And it feeds my twisted ego, which I do not deny and never have. But at least I am honest about that.

Drawing up plans for water schemes is so boring that any small things like this amuse me greatly, I am a sad individual, and I think I should go out to the shed and make sweet sweet love to my bikes.

[Ulsterkiwi]

"If the pupil hasn't learned - the teacher hasn't taught"

Go on teacher, teach me....

ehm, the pupil has to want to learn though....just sayin...