Cancer and the drug companies

[Katman]

Didn't work for Bob Marley

I believe the process involves applying the oil directly onto the skin cancer.

[mashman]

Didn't work for Bob Marley

... I'm not sure it's supposed to prevent death... but fuckin disappointed that given that it is said and proven to have worked, why isn't it available to every surgery for trial?

[Laava]

... I'm not sure it's supposed to prevent death... but fuckin disappointed that given that it is said and proven to have worked, why isn't it available to every surgery for trial?

Actually proven or just a whole bunch of stoners pushing their own agenda? They don't use surgeries for trial, they use lab rats, human or otherwise. See Glaxo clinical trials, I am sure you are aware of what I mean. Not saying it doesn't work by the way but as in the case of Vitamin C, there is no ongoing money to be made by researching it to find it works, so why research it?

[Katman]

Not saying it doesn't work by the way but as in the case of Vitamin C, there is no ongoing money to be made by researching it to find it works, so why research it?

Exactly.

Those pharmaceutical companies that Ed thinks so highly off are not interested in anything that won't make them money.

(Regardless of whether they could help save lives by being interested).

[mashman]

Actually proven or just a whole bunch of stoners pushing their own agenda? They don't use surgeries for trial, they use lab rats, human or otherwise. See Glaxo clinical trials, I am sure you are aware of what I mean. Not saying it doesn't work by the way but as in the case of Vitamin C, there is no ongoing money to be made by researching it to find it works, so why research it?

What Katman said for starters. We already have people who make cannabis oil. There are those saying that it works. We have people with skin cancer. They should have the choice as to whether they are being used as a guinea pig or not, except they won't be doing it for the money the big boys pay to humans for trial, they'll be doing it just in case it saves a chunk of their body. Maybe.

[Edbear]

Exactly.

Those pharmaceutical companies that Ed thinks so highly off are not interested in anything that won't make them money.

(Regardless of whether they could help save lives by being interested).

I believe I pointed out that they need to make money and be profitable since they are not a Govt. department. Altruism costs money. The issue for the medical profession and the Government is who would be willing to fund the research on stuff that may or may not work and may not cover its costs?

[Katman]

The issue for the medical profession and the Government is who would be willing to fund the research on stuff that may or may not work and may not cover its costs?

Have you got any idea just how little it would cost to conduct tests to determine the value of cannabis in the treatment of cancer?

[Edbear]

Have you got any idea just how little it would cost to conduct tests to determine the value of cannabis in the treatment of cancer?

So why is it not taken up by proponents? Everyone wants to blame the big drug companies for not doing it but nobody wants to do it themselves.

As I said, you don't need the big drug companies if all these alternative treatments actually worked.

[Katman]

So why is it not taken up by proponents? Everyone wants to blame the big drug companies for not doing it but nobody wants to do it themselves.

As I said, you don't need the big drug companies if all these alternative treatments actually worked.

There are plenty of people conducting their own tests in the use of cannabis in the treatment of cancer.

Trouble is, people like you and bogan will immediately disregard (and attempt to discredit) any anecdotal evidence due to the lack of 'scientific process'.

[bogan]

What Katman said for starters. We already have people who make cannabis oil. There are those saying that it works. We have people with skin cancer. They should have the choice as to whether they are being used as a guinea pig or not, except they won't be doing it for the money the big boys pay to humans for trial, they'll be doing it just in case it saves a chunk of their body. Maybe.

That's not really ethical to allow them that choice.

In saying that, just crowd fund that shit you lazy homos. Cost fuck all wouldn't it?

[Edbear]

http://www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/index.php?Itemid=135

http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides...a-research-web

[Edbear]

There are plenty of people conducting their own tests in the use of cannabis in the treatment of cancer.

Trouble is, people like you and bogan will immediately disregard (and attempt to discredit) any anecdotal evidence due to the lack of 'scientific process'.

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable, ergo the placebo effect.

[Katman]

In saying that, just crowd fund that shit you lazy homos. Cost fuck all wouldn't it?

I think the important fact you're missing is that certain law reforms would have to take place before that would ever be allowed to happen.

[Katman]

Anecdotal evidence is notoriously unreliable, ergo the placebo effect.

The placebo effect is evidence of the brain's ability to achieve healing that the vast majority of people have no understanding of.

[FJRider]

The placebo effect is evidence of the brain's ability to achieve healing that the vast majority of people have no understanding of.

If you are stoned and feel little or no pain (and if you do ... you don't care) is it better ... ??? ... and could it be described as "Treatment" ... ???????