Cancer and the drug companies

[bogan]

http://topekasnews.com/edible-mariju...-12-coachella/



It appears that there are others out there as retarded as RDJ.

I'm going to take pity on you since you continue to be trolled the fuck out of. Have you considered he gave it to you as a starting point as a test or something like that? As before, nowhere has he factually stated that in that case (or another) that weed overdose was the sole cause of death and not paired with any other mitigating circumstance including but not limited to the individual having a heart but not taking heroin.

Perhaps you feel like you passed the test enough to set down some uniform goalposts to benchmark what evidence you'd require?

[Katman]

I'm going to take pity on you since you continue to be trolled the fuck out of. Have you considered he gave it to you as a starting point as a test or something like that? As before, nowhere has he factually stated that in that case (or another) that weed overdose was the sole cause of death and not paired with any other mitigating circumstance including but not limited to the individual having a heart but not taking heroin.

Perhaps you feel like you passed the test enough to set down some uniform goalposts to benchmark what evidence you'd require?

Let me spell it out for you.

I said "no-one has ever died of a cannabis overdose".

RDJ said "You.Are.Wrong."

As yet he hasn't given any evidence that I am wrong.

Understand now?

[bogan]

Let me spell it out for you.

I said "no-one has ever died of a cannabis overdose".

RDJ said "You.Are.Wrong."

As yet he hasn't given any evidence that I am wrong.

Understand now?

You haven't given any evidence you are right though.

Shirley the burden of proof goes in chronological order?

Although I'm mindful it is harder to prove a negative, I think some compromise should be made due to your fallacy of claiming it; perhaps you should describe what sort of evidence you require? So far I'm getting much different criteria depending on what substance is overdosed upon, which is obviously showing that yes, you are wrong.

[Katman]

You haven't given any evidence you are right though.

You could start here.

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Over....fSNHvWxw.dpbs

[bogan]

You could start here.

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Over....fSNHvWxw.dpbs

You could start by responding to the whole of my post.

You might have noted that link you just provided still left room for the likelihood (albeit tiny) that a person could od on cannabis. So your evidence does not fully back your statement. Nor is it possible to provide any tbh, hence the rest of my post.

[husaberg]

You could start by responding to the whole of my post.

You might have noted that link you just provided still left room for the likelihood (albeit tiny) that a person could od on cannabis. So your evidence does not fully back your statement. Nor is it possible to provide any tbh, hence the rest of my post.

Katman 'evidence' = vague generalisations and obscure physical estimates, often gleened from agenda-focussed internet sites.

Some people would call it gossip. But I'm not that nasty

The proof is there - it is fact.

:fullstop:

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It is a fact that deaths have been attributed to cannabis by a coroner.

[Katman]

You could start by responding to the whole of my post.

You might have noted that link you just provided still left room for the likelihood (albeit tiny) that a person could od on cannabis. So your evidence does not fully back your statement. Nor is it possible to provide any tbh, hence the rest of my post.

Did you miss this bit?

2. An exhaustive search of the literature finds no deaths induced by marijuana. The US Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) records instances of drug mentions in medical examiners' reports, and though marijuana is mentioned, it is usually in combination with alcohol or other drugs. Marijuana alone has not been shown to cause an overdose death.

[husaberg]

Did you miss this bit?

2. An exhaustive search of the literature finds no deaths induced by marijuana. The US Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) records instances of drug mentions in medical examiners' reports, and though marijuana is mentioned, it is usually in combination with alcohol or other drugs. Marijuana alone has not been shown to cause an overdose death.

A pro cannabis websites extensive search............
Yet you ignore coroners findings when they don't suit you............
You ignore scientific research when it does not suit you.

[bogan]

Did you miss this bit?

2. An exhaustive search of the literature finds no deaths induced by marijuana. The US Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) records instances of drug mentions in medical examiners' reports, and though marijuana is mentioned, it is usually in combination with alcohol or other drugs. Marijuana alone has not been shown to cause an overdose death.

Not all deaths are recorded in literature you know. Hence the words 'has not been shown to' instead of 'has never'

Still struggling to define what evidence for overdose entails I see; not sure you'll pass rdj's tests with that attitude

[RDJ]

http://topekasnews.com/edible-mariju...-12-coachella/



It appears that there are others out there as retarded as RDJ.

Well, Katman, since intelligence is distributed in a bell-shaped curve and peaks at exactly the average, then indeed, yes, you are correct.

Interesting comment in your rep allocation - I had to chuckle. Although if the sheer poetry of your discourse and the colorful words you string together on this forum are how you operate in your business, I'm guessing this explains why you have so much time on your hands to research invective, urban mythology and fantastical conspiracies...

[Katman]

Heart-breaking news but Alex Renton passed away this evening.

[RDJ]

And I hope that sad fact will not be used in service of anyone's agenda. R.I.P Alex.

[husaberg]

[Edbear]

And I hope that sad fact will not be used in service of anyone's agenda. R.I.P Alex.

You can be sure it will be, by someone. It was nice to know he was able to interact with his family, though, and if that's all it took, it was worth the try.

[RDJ]

Throwing Katman some Katnip...

Abstract of a paper published in a Clinical Toxicology Journal 2009
INTRODUCTION:
Cannabis is the most widely used illicit drug worldwide. As societies reconsider the legal status of cannabis, policy makers and clinicians require sound knowledge of the acute and chronic effects of cannabis. This review focuses on the latter.
METHODS:
A systematic review of Medline, PubMed, PsychInfo, and Google Scholar using the search terms "cannabis," "marijuana," "marihuana," "toxicity," "complications," and "mechanisms" identified 5,198 papers. This list was screened by hand, and papers describing mechanisms and those published in more recent years were chosen preferentially for inclusion in this review.
FINDINGS:
There is evidence of psychiatric, respiratory, cardiovascular, and bone toxicity associated with chronic cannabis use. Cannabis has now been implicated in the etiology of many major long-term psychiatric conditions including depression, anxiety, psychosis, bipolar disorder, and an amotivational state. Respiratory conditions linked with cannabis include reduced lung density, lung cysts, and chronic bronchitis. Cannabis has been linked in a dose-dependent manner with elevated rates of myocardial infarction and cardiac arrythmias. It is known to affect bone metabolism and also has teratogenic effects on the developing brain following perinatal exposure. Cannabis has been linked to cancers at eight sites, including children after in utero maternal exposure, and multiple molecular pathways to oncogenesis exist.
CONCLUSION:
Chronic cannabis use is associated with psychiatric, respiratory, cardiovascular, and bone effects. It also has oncogenic, teratogenic, and mutagenic effects all of which depend upon dose and duration of use.

Part Deux; acute effects: an exercise for the student.