The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[Oscar]

Hoisted by your own you. Chur

And the chief muppet weighs in with an equally meaningless comment.
Don't you two get tired of looking like twats?

[husaberg]

You're right... get rid of money and there will never be debt again.

No here's a novel idea, Well not that novel. As your parents likely did it and so did they parents and there parents before them.
Stop borrowing money.
Live within your means and debt is then no longer an issue.
Then you can save money and earn interest on that instead of spending it of crippling interest.
If you want something try saving up the money for it.
IE If you can't afford it now wait until you can or make some savings in expenditure until you can afford it.

[mashman]

Why?
Coz you say so?

Do you know anything about the Greek economy?
What was the age of entitlement for Superannuation?

Because there are people involved that have done nothing wrong.

bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... what? not having local knowledge of Greece's economy means what? It's not surprising that a sad fuck like yourself trying to play the man and ignoring the issue and the millions of people involved that have done nought wrong. Bet your mum would be real proud eh son. Go on Pious, give it your best shot... you sound like you need to offload.

[mashman]

And the chief muppet weighs in with an equally meaningless comment.
Don't you two get tired of looking like twats?

And yet it had more meaning that the shite you posted that you thought had merit.
There's more than 2 of me here.

[husaberg]

I agree with that.
But for anyone to compare the scale of our borrowing to Greece's is mental.

And to be honest, although I have been known to whinge about the amount of tax that we pay, I would be happy to go back to pre JK levels if it 1) was invested in schools and hospitals and 2) paid down debt (in that order).

So would I.
I would like to see NZ debt free master of our own destiny doing what we do best innovate and produce food at a lower cost than anyone else.

Shame we have lost so much of our talent overseas, We have also allowed so much of our greatest assets to be squandered for a short term gain or to appease our trading partners Ie the dairy and other producer boards.

[mashman]

No here's a novel idea Well not that novel as your parents likely did it and so did they parents and there parents before them stop borrowing money, Live within your means and debt is not an issue. Then you can save money and earn interest on that instead of spending it of crippling interest.
If you want something try saving up the money for it. IE If you can't afford it now wait until you can or make some savings in expenditure until you can afford it.

Didn't read your post, because it actually looked stupid given the first word. Should I read it?

[husaberg]

Didn't read your post, because it actually looked stupid given the first word. Should I read it?

Nah it would be a waste of your valuable time. It was a really complicated little known economic theory. Rather than just old common sense.

No here's a novel idea, Well not that novel. As your parents likely did it and so did they parents and there parents before them.
Stop borrowing money.
Live within your means and debt is then no longer an issue.
Then you can save money and earn interest on that instead of spending it of crippling interest.
If you want something try saving up the money for it.
IE If you can't afford it now wait until you can or make some savings in expenditure until you can afford it.

[mashman]

Nah it would be a waste of your valuable time. It was a really complicated little known economic theory. Rather than just old common sense.

Well, if it was an economic theory that requires money to facilitate it, it's going to fail. My evidence, 40,000 years of financial problems. It's always amusing to watch peeps think that there's a financial solution in this somewhere despite the evidence... ESPECIALLY when they believe themselves a student of history .

[Brian d marge]

And the chief muppet weighs in with an equally meaningless comment.
Don't you two get tired of looking like twats?

No your too much fun to play with



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[Brian d marge]

No here's a novel idea, Well not that novel. As your parents likely did it and so did they parents and there parents before them.
Stop borrowing money.
Live within your means and debt is then no longer an issue.
Then you can save money and earn interest on that instead of spending it of crippling interest.
If you want something try saving up the money for it.
IE If you can't afford it now wait until you can or make some savings in expenditure until you can afford it.

That ended at bretton woods and was really kicked into touch when the glass steagall was removed in the 80s under that coke head clinton

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[husaberg]

Well, if it was an economic theory that requires money to facilitate it, it's going to fail. My evidence, 40,000 years of financial problems. It's always amusing to watch peeps think that there's a financial solution in this somewhere despite the evidence... ESPECIALLY when they believe themselves a student of history .

Money no. It only requires common sense and patience it would work equally well with bitcoin or barter or whatever form or currency sir prefers.
But unfortunately it has no boogeymen. So it will not fly with the conspiracy types. Like I said its really really complicated.

No here's a novel idea, Well not that novel. As your parents likely did it and so did they parents and there parents before them.
Stop borrowing money.
Live within your means and debt is then no longer an issue.
Then you can save money and earn interest on that instead of spending it of crippling interest.
If you want something try saving up the money for it.
IE If you can't afford it now wait until you can or make some savings in expenditure until you can afford it.

[husaberg]

That ended at bretton woods and was really kicked into touch when theglass stegalact was removed in the 80s under that coke head clinton

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Engerish please...........
Fiscal responsibility while being out of fashion is still the solution to debt

[Brian d marge]

He cannot accept that these people did this of their own violation.
He much prefers the fairy story where the big, bad banker put the people of Greece in this position by….what?

Selling them magic beans?

Putting a magic potion in the water?

The fact is that successive Greek Governments pandered to their citizens on a breath-taking scale and those citizens were happy to accept that largesse. Even now, the inability of a large part of Greece’s population to accept that they did this to themselves is simply amazing. They mortgaged the family silver so as to sun themselves in idleness whilst drinking more raki…


And before you left wing wackos start talking about this happening to NZ - we have an average (of the CIA/IMF figures) public debt to GDP ratio of 34% (in 2012).
Greece's figure is 158% and growing...

Have ya checked most if not all of the g20 debt to gdp japans is how much . . England is . #Ohnoes
Nz as ive said many times before NZs reserve bank is quite responsible
Even a world leader
It dreamed up the 2 % inflation target


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[Woodman]

Because there are people involved that have done nothing wrong.

bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... what? not having local knowledge of Greece's economy means what? It's not surprising that a sad fuck like yourself trying to play the man and ignoring the issue and the millions of people involved that have done nought wrong. Bet your mum would be real proud eh son. Go on Pious, give it your best shot... you sound like you need to offload.

The discussion was about the Greek economy so some knowledge of the Greek economy is useful when discussing the Greek economy.

Evading tax and being lazy is doing something wrong. Maybe not in your dreamworld, but in the real world.

[mashman]

Money no. It only requires common sense and patience it would work equally well with bitcoin or barter or whatever form or currency sir prefers.
But unfortunately it has no boogeymen. So it will not fly with the conspiracy types. Like I said its really really complicated.

Well obviously not barter coz those days are gone. Bitcoin is money. Sir prefers no currency.
If it's complicated then you don't understand it well enough.