Integrated visor or not?

[Katman]

It's photochromic people - photochromic.

[Moise]

How quickly does the visor change, for example going from bright sunlight into shade?

I can crack the visor slightly open on the Shoei. Really good feature.

[Bass]

It's photochromic people - photochromic.

http://attemptnwin.com/answers/photo...romic-glasses/

According to this link, photochromatic reacts to visible light and photochromic to UV, so I don't know if you're right or not.
Still learn something everyday it seems

[caspernz]

Another point of difference with the Bell's.
They don't have a pin lock and it's not needed, they do have a hold and lock lever that pushes your visor just off the seal, not alot of wind etc, but No Fogging, so just the one lense to look through.
Sizes, they seemed to cover the range, ours were cheaper than normal because it suited us to take 2 the same colour which happened to be on special at the time, essentially we got our Bells with the original clear visor, a clothe bag and the photochromatic visor for the price of the helmet, this was just 4 months ago.

That sounds like a useful alternative to an internal visor...but how swiftly does the photochromic visor change, like when you duck into a tunnel for example?

It's photochromic people - photochromic.

Most of us can't tell the difference, bit like fake boobs and real ones...

How quickly does the visor change, for example going from bright sunlight into shade?

I can crack the visor slightly open on the Shoei. Really good feature.

Yeah, my mind wonders about this as well, having had photochromic prescription glasses, and being annoyed with the slow transitions...fastest being around 12-15 seconds...

http://attemptnwin.com/answers/photo...romic-glasses/

According to this link, photochromatic reacts to visible light and photochromic to UV, so I don't know if you're right or not.
Still learn something everyday it seems

The annoying bit, only mildly relevant here, is with photochromic specs worn inside a vehicle with UV cut windows...renders the photochromic function useless.

[Erelyes]

Scorpion Exo-1000 here with a dropdown sun visor. Personally I found it 'OK' at first but as time went on it became more of a pain than it was worth. You also have the hassle of having two visors to clean / fog up.

I wouldn't avoid a helmet with one but I wouldn't pay extra either.

[Duncan74]

I use a hjc Rpha-ST with integrated sun visor. However, depending on the weather then I use some Oakley sunnies and then just the clear outer visor. The inner shaded one does fog up, which is a pain. However, if I get caught out on the commute or with changing weather then the internal is really useful. Also, I use both the drop down over the sunnies when riding through tree lined routes in bright sun where the doublee shade lets the eyes adjust to even out the light and keep visibility.

G40 lenses wich aren't that dark.

Works for me, but then I've got pretty high sensitivity to light.

[Tazz]

I really wanted a helmet with the drop down sun visor, so I got one, and then proceeded to carry on using sunglasses haha
Like others I'm visor up most the time during daylight hours and sunglasses stop bugs and shit from getting into your eyes better than the sun visor does.

Also, you can still drop it down over your sunglasses when the angle is real bad. Mind you I put a tinted visor on that helmet and the tint, drop down sun visor and sunglasses all at once are still not as handy as the peak on one of my other helmets

[Grashopper]

Love the photochromic visor on my Bell. I never noticed any issues with going between sunny and shaded areas. No clue about tunnels, but then you just lift it up, like you would a tinted visor, until it has changed.

I've got a clear and a tinted visor for the Shoei, but I hate having to stop to change them. In particular, when I'm nearly home lol and then it gets darker and darker....

My first helmet had an integrated sun visor. I quite liked that one, too.

[vifferman]

Meh (sheep or goat - take your pick). My second-to-last helmet (AGV, one of several before I realised my head wasn't AGV-shaped) had a mirror-tinted visor, and was fine for all lighting conditions. Current Shoei has a dark-tinted visor, and after carrying a clear visor on days when I might be working late, I've discovered it's actually fine at night, so I don't worry about it. Visibility is within or slightly outside of acceptable parameters after sunset, and after several hundred repetitions, my bike knows the way home from work anyway, so I can snooze...

[caseye]

To answer the question about how long the photochromatic ( KM this is how it was spelt on the box) visor takes to transition from tinted to clear and vice versa.
It takes about 3 seconds.
Ridden, bright sunny, overcast, cloudy, dusk and nighttime, it works!
I personally am extremely happy with this new piece of kit and am happy to recommend it.

[caspernz]

Mmmm, having now had a Shoei Neotec with the integrated sun visor for about 3 years...reading up a little more on the photochromic visors that have recently become available. They seem expensive and only available for select helmets, yet reading the comments on how quick they change...definitely worth looking at when the next helmet change comes up. Prefer a dark visor over an integrated sun visor, but the convenience factor makes me favour the integrated sun visor over carrying a spare full visor. Yeah, I know, first world problem and all that

My only complaint with the integrated sun visor is the fact it's a little short, leaving part of my face exposed to the sun. So if I spend a few long days in the saddle, it leaves either a bit of sunburn or the start of one of the weirdest tan lines...well, on days I forget the sun block anyway.

[Mr Revhead]

Not a fan of internal tinted visors as they compromise protection.

How so?

Love my LS2 with drop down visor, wouldn't even look at a helmet without one. I guess the complaints about it don't dropping down far enough comes under fitment? It's not something I've come across with the 2 helmets I have.

[MD]

+ one for the Bell photoautohydroturbochromomatic visor. they simply work...end of story.

[Erelyes]

How so?

Less EPS in the top/front area, due to needing a cavity for the drop-down visor.

[Moise]

Less EPS in the top/front area, due to needing a cavity for the drop-down visor.

It's not just less EPS, it's also the air gap between the shell and the liner.

Snell won't test them, let alone approve them, and Arai still don't make one. Have a look at the SHARP rating for the Shoei GT Air.

I'll stick with my mirrored visor in summer.