Got side-swiped on the motorway

[J.A.W.]

Fatting along 15kms faster than the lanes of traffic, lane splitting and a vehicle in front makes a lane change - he was never going to see him, brain is not programmed for it in normal driving conditions - the rider was the one to make the decision to alter the standard accepted driving practice.

Race is irrelevant - chances are if Jesus Christ was driving he'd have not looked for the bike.


Years back at the horse racing a guy I know tells the tale of him standing next to this attractive woman in a tight top - he makes the sly glances at the curvaceous profiles present many times, even catches a smile from her if he story is correct. After about ten minutes he realizes her top is actually body paint (apparently the temperature had dropped a bit ....).

Point is he was programmed to see clothing.

Unless you have ridden a motorcycle for a reasonable period of time as a car driver you are expecting the motorcycle (if you see it) to behave like a car.

Stop making excuses for the bloody perp.. a 3rd world fuckwit.. from a place well known for shit driving & dishonesty..

[Jin]

Stop making excuses for the bloody perp.. a 3rd world fuckwit.. from a place well known for shit driving & dishonesty..

bit fucking rich for you to be calling someone a fuckwit fuckwit

[J.A.W.]

bit fucking rich for you to be calling someone a fuckwit fuckwit

Awww.. is 'Bombay jin' - having a wee tanty?

When what he really wanted.. was a chutney drippn' poppadom? L.O.L...

[nzspokes]

Sorry to hear but be glad its only your ankle that hurts. A crash on the motorway could have been a lot worse.

Ignore the self righteous fuckwits who claim they never lanesplit, speed and drive like nanna's on the road.

Some of us can lanesplit, filter etc without bouncing off cars.

[R650R]

So your in lane two of the motorway, and lane splitting so at the extreme right of that lane and you expect the car in same lane to see your right indicator going???? And even if he sees it going hes supposed to magically know that it means your Not moving to the right or making a right turn as in the road code but overtaking him whilst in the same lane!!!
Just be thankful your alive and not road kill. I've lived in Auckland for about 3 and half years at one stage and got about by bike heaps and cut ym teeth up there as far as lane splitting goes. But if it had ever turned to shit like that I'd suck it up and admit that your doing an unconventional manoevoure that not all motorists might expect. Never mind the legal greyness......

Anyone whose motorway savvy knows the last thing you do is come to a stop (to help or rubberneck) or you risk being hit yourself. Unless your directly involved or a trained paramedic and/or it looks life threatening best to go with the flow.

Lesson learned aye, people will do unpredictable shit on the motrway and also preditable shit like sudden lane changes.

Although this sucks, guess what. it might be the first time but prob wont be the last... have fun but keep it safe.

[Swoop]

Who the fuck is Harold?

That waste of space daily rag, that confuses actual "news" with utter crap/gossip/trivia that should be in the Woman's Weekly and tabloid magazines.

[Grubber]

Not really sure what he expected was going to happen eventually riding like that.
80k traffic and lane splitting at 90k was always going to end well.
What a pratt!

[Berries]

Secondly, was I doing an unsafe overtake? I was within lane 2, within the speed limit, passing on the right with my right hand indicator on for at least three seconds prior.

You think an indicator does anything when you make an extra lane on the motorway or that a car driver expects to see someone ride past in the same lane when they are doing over 70? It's all your fault if you ask me, which you did by posting.

Also, first three cars that saw me lying in the road went by camera phone out the window.
Car 4 who watched the whole accident (she was the car the guy that hit me was pulling in front of) asked "Are you Rokay? You need amburance?" then drove off.

Wow. A possible witness to actually help you out and you make that racist comment.

[J.A.W.]

Wow. A possible witness to actually help you out and you make that racist comment.

How did you miss - "& then drove off"?

Did she provide a witness statement, or video from her dash cam?

Of course not...

Best you go back to your streaky greasin' & cease the oafish remarks...

[jonnyk5614]

Cheers for all having a good time.
Yup - lane splitting at that speed is probably asking for trouble. I realise that.
No - my mirrors weren't folded in. They get folded at traffic light queues at 15kph.

The point I was getting at is that, my being an idiot aside, the guy didn't indicate prior and changed lane expecting 2-3m of space to be sufficient for the following vehicle at 80kph.

I'd maintained the same road position, to the right of lane 2 vehicles and left of white line for some time and would therefore be in his mirror for some time. I was indicating right. This is what NZ road code - whether safe or not - says is legal.

I don't see any way he checked his mirror.
When I took my test it was mirror, signal, blind spot, manoeuvre. All it looks like he did to me was manoeuvre, signal, crash.

The traffic was stationary because I was lying in lane three. The rights or wrongs of my actions, I'd still stop and help me up if I were the following car.

Also, the Asian lady following should have offered to witness - for either party?

Re the last crash. Yup. Screwed up. Got stuck in my seat cos of stuff shoved in my jacket when I wanted to pretend an empty road was a racetrack. I knocked that practise on the head, booked a ride forever course, genuinely slowed down a lot and invested in better gear.


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[jonnyk5614]

What gets me is the post is a little condescending to the motorists, implying fault is with the driver, right down to impersonating accents! then gives rave reviews for the motorcyclist...
Hmm, tad skewed here...

I want the drivers viewpoint. Anyway it looks, the fault is with the rider IMO - too fast for the conditions here, really!

To be perfectly honest, that biker was just as awesome as I said.
Even if we all conclude that the whole thing was down to my being a idiotic fuckwit (perfectly likely), he was the only person that didn't go "serves you right - toodleloo" but went "OK - this guy has fucked up but needs a hand"


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[jonnyk5614]

1. Indian curry shit eater can't fucking drive.

2. Yeah, your speed mate. At 80kph the officer would assume you to just flow with the traffic.

Well, it's too late for blame game now. Hope you get your insurance claim sorted bud!

Fair enough re the 80kph. To be honest, it had been much slower then was gradually speeding up and I was about to be looking at merging back into traffic.

I guess that is the thing - you have to consciously change mindset to go from splitting to not and I was just pretty focussed on splitting.


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[Madness]

The point I was getting at is that, my being an idiot aside, the guy didn't indicate prior and changed lane expecting 2-3m of space to be sufficient for the following vehicle at 80kph.

So there was nothing unusual about his driving then, considering it's D'Auckland. Seriously though dude, it's time for another attitude adjustment. In this heat and humidity a corpse is going to get smelly pretty quick.

[eldog]

the Asian lady following should have offered to witness - for either party?

Re the last crash. Yup. Screwed up. Got stuck in my seat cos of stuff shoved in my jacket when I wanted to pretend an empty road was a racetrack. I knocked that practise on the head, genuinely slowed down a lot and invested in better gear.

Ever decreasing number of aucklanders willing to become involved.

Good to see you are able to look back and change your activities so it reduces the chance of it happening again.

That ankle will ache for ages, try not to beat your self up, focus on getting fixed up and becoming a better rider.

I have made a good many mistakes in my riding career, learnt the hard way, life can be cruel but there's a lot worst off than me.

Good gear is always worth it.

[FJRider]

expecting 2-3m of space to be sufficient for the following vehicle at 80kph.

I whether safe or not - says is legal.

I don't see any way he checked his mirror.

When I took my test it was mirror, signal, blind spot, manoeuvre. All it looks like he did to me was manoeuvre, signal, crash.

Also, the Asian lady following should have offered to witness - for either party?

"Expecting" .. is never any guarantee of anything.

Legal is no guarantee of safe. Legal and dead is never good.

Could you see him in his mirrors (did YOU look to see if he was looking .. ??) .. ??? (but he probably didn't look)

You put yourself in his blind spot ... and got clobbered. Learn from it.

The Asian lady probably didn't speak English. And ... was probably in a hurry. (Auckland ... right .. ??)