Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[mashman]

Burn down politicians electoral office?

Lazy fucker... unless you were being metaphorical

[gjm]

Fair 'nuf. I wasn't in NZ at the time so can only go by what research I have done.
Waitangi Day history now suggests differently for Helen Clark. I'd be unsurprised to see it read 'John Key didn't attend because he's a supercilious twat.'

Anyone who wants to see how badly this might end just needs to look at the UK and involvement in the EU (which many people, prime minister excluded it seems, are now trying to get out of) - history is repeating itself. To those who lived through one it is obvious, and immensely frustrating.

In today's news:

"In 2008, Mr Key criticised former Labour Prime Minister Helen Clark for not attending the marae on Waitangi Day after she was involved in a string of protests, and Mr Key made it one of his election promises to attend Te Tii Waitangi each year.
Ms Clark was brought to tears during a visit in 1998 over an argument regarding her right to speak at the marae.
At the time, Mr Key said she should "get over it", calling it an "opportunity for her to engage"."

I'd like to change my description to 'hypocritical supercilious twat.'

[sidecar bob]

In today's news:

"In 2008, Mr Key criticised former Labour Prime Minister Helen Clark for not attending the marae on Waitangi Day after she was involved in a string of protests, and Mr Key made it one of his election promises to attend Te Tii Waitangi each year.
'

John Key is not attending because the folk at the Marae are divided over weather to welcome him with open arms, or attack him, weather he should be allowed to speak, or prevented from speaking
If his personal safety can not be guaranteed there is no way he should be attending.
Its not about politics, its about a man's personal safety, but you are not prevented from packaging it however it suits you to fit your personal agenda.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Really, his personal safety ?
Have you met the man ?
I have, and met his personal protection squad too, nice guys.
His car always has a driver in it, the motor running, whenever he's at a function.
Thats the protocol used.
Std operating procedure. ( just in case hey need to get him out of a situation, pronto )
He's in NO danger at all, unless you call getting heckled, and having his feelings hurt.
Don't make more of the situation than it actually is.

[Akzle]

John Key is not attending because the folk at the Marae are divided over weather to welcome him with open arms, or attack him, weather he should be allowed to speak, or prevented from speaking
If his personal safety can not be guaranteed there is no way he should be attending.
Its not about politics, its about a man's personal safety, but you are not prevented from packaging it however it suits you to fit your personal agenda.

fuuuuuuck your white.

(or stirring the pot. In which instance, well stirred sir, well stirred)

[Ocean1]

John Key is not attending because the folk at the Marae are divided over weather to welcome him with open arms, or attack him, weather he should be allowed to speak, or prevented from speaking
If his personal safety can not be guaranteed there is no way he should be attending.
Its not about politics, its about a man's personal safety, but you are not prevented from packaging it however it suits you to fit your personal agenda.

Oh it's about politics all right. Or more accurately diplomacy. But the reasons not to bother are a lot more mundane. Attendance by the PM or any other govt rep is a mark of respect to the treaty partners. It's just become tediously obvious over the years that there's not enough resiprocal respect from most of the multitude of groups claiming Maori leadership to allow any diplomatic function to be taken seriously.

Far better to kick their soap box away and celibrate national unity without them.

[sidecar bob]

If the local Iwi could actually show a united front, publicly at least, it would make them slightly more difficult to ridicule.

[mashman]

Far better to kick their soap box away and celibrate national unity without them.

[oldrider]

Is that the Youi insurance car as seen on TV advertising?

[Stylo]

Speaking of National, having the sights of these 'winners' blocking streets and holding everyone up yesterday won't do them any harm at all. Quite the opposite.

Good thing there wasn't a Fire Engine or Ambulance trying to get through

[Okey Dokey]

Good thing there wasn't a Fire Engine or Ambulance trying to get through

As a matter of fact, Sue Bradford admitted on Morning Report this morning, that an ambulance WAS held up by the protesters blocking the roads. She said they got out of the way as soon as the police advised them, but the impression given was that there had been a significant delay to the ambo.

[Stylo]

As a matter of fact, Sue Bradford admitted on Morning Report this morning, that an ambulance WAS held up by the protesters blocking the roads. She said they got out of the way as soon as the police advised them, but the impression given was that there had been a significant delay to the ambo.

I hadn't seen the news today, working

What if it was a major which required multiple Police, Fire and emergency services. In the Queen St inner city area ?

I guess if any protesters were killed by a Fire truck it would reduce the beneficiary expense to the rest of us good honest workers ...

[Crasherfromwayback]

John Key is not attending because the folk at the Marae are divided over weather to welcome him with open arms, or attack him, weather he should be allowed to speak, or prevented from speaking
If his personal safety can not be guaranteed there is no way he should be attending.
Its not about politics, its about a man's personal safety, but you are not prevented from packaging it however it suits you to fit your personal agenda.

Really, his personal safety ?
Have you met the man ?
I have, and met his personal protection squad too, nice guys.
His car always has a driver in it, the motor running, whenever he's at a function.
Thats the protocol used.
Std operating procedure. ( just in case hey need to get him out of a situation, pronto )
He's in NO danger at all, unless you call getting heckled, and having his feelings hurt.
Don't make more of the situation than it actually is.

B is the correct answer.

[gjm]

John Key is not attending because the folk at the Marae are divided over weather to welcome him with open arms, or attack him, weather he should be allowed to speak, or prevented from speaking
If his personal safety can not be guaranteed there is no way he should be attending.
Its not about politics, its about a man's personal safety, but you are not prevented from packaging it however it suits you to fit your personal agenda.

When I said "In today's news," I really was actually quoting the news and not packaging anything.

[sidecar bob]

B is the correct answer.

Ok Kawasaki salesman, let's shove you into a group of those old angry bikers that hated jap bikes.
You should be ok & able to talk your way around.
He's made the right call, they don't want him to speak & most of them don't want him there so why should he waste a day appeasing a bunch of pretend aggrieved, divided idiots.
Hey, why don't you guys all rock up, clearly it's going to be a fun day with great company apparently.