Any one have Round-up shares?

[Akzle]

I suggest that you get yourself a big box of tissues.

i suggest you put the muzzle of a 12ga in your mouth and pull the trigger

[husaberg]

i suggest you put the muzzle of a 12ga in your mouth and pull the trigger

Merely reflection of self...............

[TheDemonLord]

For once - it looks like Katman has a point - It does look like Roundup is not as safe as it's manufacturer claims:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3955666/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4392553/

The gist of both articles being that the usage of GM crops that are resistant to Roundup has lead to an increase in its use, however Weeds are developing a resistance to Roundup, requiring more to be used. The net result is that the crops we consume have larger amounts of Roundup residue on them - leading to issues particulalry in the long term (for example in a 24 hr period, 63 ppm was toxic to Rat cells, but over a 2 year exposure, only a 0.1 ppm was enough to cause issues)

And just to prove that I'm fair in my review of the articles - I'll post this excerpt that will have certain people creaming themselves:

However, Roundup was found in this experiment to be 125 times more toxic than glyphosate. Moreover, despite its reputation, Roundup was by far the most toxic among the herbicides and insecticides tested. This inconsistency between scientific fact and industrial claim may be attributed to huge economic interests, which have been found to falsify health risk assessments and delay health policy decisions

[nzspokes]

For once - it looks like Katman has a point - It does look like Roundup is not as safe as it's manufacturer claims:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3955666/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4392553/

The gist of both articles being that the usage of GM crops that are resistant to Roundup has lead to an increase in its use, however Weeds are developing a resistance to Roundup, requiring more to be used. The net result is that the crops we consume have larger amounts of Roundup residue on them - leading to issues particulalry in the long term (for example in a 24 hr period, 63 ppm was toxic to Rat cells, but over a 2 year exposure, only a 0.1 ppm was enough to cause issues)

And just to prove that I'm fair in my review of the articles - I'll post this excerpt that will have certain people creaming themselves:

Does it kill Bamboo?

[Katman]

For once - it looks like Katman has a point -

Get used to it.

[TheDemonLord]

Get used to it.

You know - what you should realise is that if there is sufficient proof for claims, most of the people who ridicule your more outlandish flights of fancy would be persuaded. The fact that we aren't is a testament to the lack of sufficient proof.

Also - considering its the first valid claim in 2 years of my being here - I'll pass on the getting used to it at this stage....

[TheDemonLord]

Does it kill Bamboo?

And healthy human cells with long term exposure.

[nzspokes]

And healthy human cells with long term exposure.

Wasnt planning on drinking it.

[Katman]

The fact that we aren't is a testament to the lack of sufficient proof.

Or it could be testament to your blindness.

[carbonhed]

For once - it looks like Katman has a point - It does look like Roundup is not as safe as it's manufacturer claims:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3955666/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4392553/

The gist of both articles being that the usage of GM crops that are resistant to Roundup has lead to an increase in its use, however Weeds are developing a resistance to Roundup, requiring more to be used. The net result is that the crops we consume have larger amounts of Roundup residue on them - leading to issues particulalry in the long term (for example in a 24 hr period, 63 ppm was toxic to Rat cells, but over a 2 year exposure, only a 0.1 ppm was enough to cause issues)

And just to prove that I'm fair in my review of the articles - I'll post this excerpt that will have certain people creaming themselves:

Activist pseudo science.

Resistance is always something to be monitored but if you had a problem the last thing you'd do is pour more of the same thing on. There's literally hundreds of herbicides to choose from.

And a hundred times more toxic than not toxic is what precisely?

One of these tests focused on the spreader/penetrant in Roundup which was a detergent/soap derived from an organic base... naturally if you bathe foetal cells in a solution of this it's going to disrupt the fats in the cell walls... maybe you should stop covering yourself in bubbles every evening? Or in Katman's case cut down on the pumice and goose fat.

[Woodman]

Get used to it.

Gracious as ever.

[Katman]

Gracious as ever.

I wouldn't call it that.

[Oakie]

Yup, 'Gardner in a Can'!

Our maintenance boys at work refer to it as 'the liquid hoe'. The hippies at work haven't caught on to that yet but they like their nice weed free flower gardens.

[husaberg]

Gracious as ever.

You remember that movie with Mel Gibson when he finally has a conspiracy that true.

[Berries]

Does it kill Bamboo?

Oh no, not the baby deer?