5 year old killed by parents stupidity

[Tazz]

Well Madmess is going in circles trying to absolve any parental responsibilities of parents, and then we have someone who has stated on this forum they have driven a massive distance in a commercial truck without noticing they were missing a wheel off their trailer worrying about public image

I'm not worried about my public image thanks, I'm worried about myself or others running over some poor kid due to completely avoidable situations.

Yeah, Nah!
Given what we know, it is fair to assume the little girl tragically killed while riding her new bike on/beside,across a road that just happens to have a 70kph speed limit on it was tragically killed as a direct result of a lack of parental judgement/supervision/responsibility. Would anyone here in KB, let their 5 year old daughter go and ride her new bike along a busy road with her 8 year old cousin? Your Sisters or brothers kid!

70kph road, school just down "that road" You know the one, the one others in the neighbourhood have complained to council about, 1 week of riding tuition/guidance by ???? then, off you go baby girl, go ride to that school with your 8 year old cousin.

The poor little mite will relieve her cousin's death forever now and she was responsible, anyone here care to explain to her that they'd never have let her be responsible for their child, that they'd have taken the pair of them to the school and watched them learning how to ride their bikes together and safely.

If the ute driver was travelling too fast I hope he gets charged, if he wasn't, I hope he can still live in his neighbourhood without fear of retribution.
If it is discovered that the parents were neglectful I hope they get a huge rocket up their collective backsides and get some help with learning how to responsibly parent their children.
I sincerely hope that help comes firstly from within their own whanau/community, for me it is enough punishment that they have lost a beautiful little girl, but after this there can be no excuses for allowing such a thing to happen again.

This! I am to abrupt too word it so politely. It is tragic, but it's an inexcusable 'accident' when it is said it was a hazard they had already identified and (allegedly) attempted to speak to local authorities about.

It's like pointing out that the knives in your kitchen are at a height kids could reach, and then leaving a kid alone in the kitchen.
No body would ever want the kid to hurt themselves but the decisions of those in control have put it in a position with a very high chance of that happening, despite knowing the risks to begin with, and then everyone is all sad and blames the knife when the inevitable happens and the kid cuts a finger.

[Madness]

I'm disturbed that you can think any of this is funny.

[Tazz]

I'm disturbed that you can think any of this is funny.

Do you just have a smiley face fixation or are you trying to yet again put words in my mouth?

Lets go back to the fact (from what you've said) you think that it's not anyone's fault, and certainly not the parents, that a 5 year old with an almost brand new bike is riding in a 70kph zone while being supervised by an 8 year old. You are saying that this is OK, that it is no ones fault and that it is just some tragic freak accident. You're wrong.

The parents don't need to be punished and they are probably really nice people that are devastated, but they are devastated due to their own actions/inactions and there is a lesson to be learned here and it is certainly not that lower speed zones are better babysitters.

[Maha]

Do you just have a smiley face fixation or are you trying to yet again put words in my mouth?

Lucky that's all he is trying to put in your mouth.....

[Madness]

Lets go back to the fact (from what you've said) you think that it's not anyone's fault, and certainly not the parents, that a 5 year old with an almost brand new bike is riding in a 70kph zone while being supervised by an 8 year old.

Where did I say that?

You are saying that this is OK, that it is no ones fault and that it is just some tragic freak accident.

Where did I say that?

You're wrong.

You're a cunt. A cunt who's disrespecting a grieving couple by making a shitload of assumptions after seemingly having done little more than reading an internet news article, from stuff no less.

The parents don't need to be punished and they are probably really nice people that are devastated

Take another read of the thread title that you typed and tell me they're not being punished.

but they are devastated due to their own actions/inactions and there is a lesson to be learned here and it is certainly not that lower speed zones are better babysitters.

In your opinion, based on your reading of the stuff article and a bunch of assumptions. Fuck, you're a cunt.

[Madness]

Lucky that's all he is trying to put in your mouth.....

Yeah, because you'd have slipped your tiny little penis in given half a chance, eh?

[Duncan74]

Understanding the full context of the specific location of the tragic crash is essential to even start a discussion on this event. A look on google streetview would be a step in that direction, but a long way from that full understanding.

For a start the road has more cyclists than cars on it, or it would if there wasn't a wide off road cycle path. Then there's the 20-30 houses served by this (effectively) dead end road. It is a place that I've frequently seen kids out riding bikes or running around unsupervised.

But the bottom line is a driver that left home that morning not intending to hurt anyone, has ended up through misfortune being in the exact same space as a little girl out playing. No-one in this situation is right or solely to blame. Everyone could have done something in hindsight, but at the same time be it children riding bikes, pensioners walking on crossings, drunks at 4am, tourists in campervans, teens racing or motorcyclists commuting, there will be another 300 deaths this year where no-one intended their actions to result in that.

[Maha]

Yeah, because I'd have slipped my tiny little penis in given half a chance, eh?

Reads more like it now...

Your piss weak comeback via the rep system hurts so good

[R650R]

nd then we have someone who has stated on this forum they have driven a massive distance in a commercial truck without noticing they were missing a wheel off their trailer worrying about public image

Aside from the creepy stalker aspect of dredging up an old tale from the highway I mentioned in here ages ago, you could at least get the facts right.

I've NEVER lost a wheel off my trailer... Had one damaged due to negligence on part of mechanic and unfortunate combination of events. And the distance would have been 100km or less.
And I was aghast at the possible consequences/risks and did/do care about public image.
But hey let's not let facts get in the way of a diversionary rant.

I'm not worried about my public image.....

That's kinda self evident.....

[cynna]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7900...been-prevented



Who complains about the speed of a road being too high and then lets their 5 year old child loose on a bike on that very road only a week after receiving a bike?!?! .

same people that let there 3 year old play with a strange dog then wont a whole breed put down because of their stupity. some people need to take responsibilty for there own actions and stop blaming society

[Tazz]

Where did I say that?



Where did I say that?



You're a cunt. A cunt who's disrespecting a grieving couple by making a shitload of assumptions after seemingly having done little more than reading an internet news article, from stuff no less.



Take another read of the thread title that you typed and tell me they're not being punished.



In your opinion, based on your reading of the stuff article and a bunch of assumptions. Fuck, you're a cunt.

So you are the only one that can put words in peoples mouths then? Interesting that you do it to me and don't like it being done to yourself and a bit of a tell of character.

Disrespectful? What are you, some little hood rat? My words only hold weight to those that want them to do so. If you choose to be insulted, or them, that's your choice but it doesn't bring that poor wee girl back and it doesn't take away the scarring from the 2 victims of negligence.

By saying the parents are victims here you are also saying that it is OK to have a 5 year old supervised by an 8 year old.

I don't agree with things written in (clearly) and have drawn on details from the same article you have.

The title is definitely harsh. I did try to change it to carelessness but the forum didn't allow it.

At the end of the day, I still stand by saying that it is ludicrous for someone to identify a hazard, complain about it and then blame that hazard for the death of someone in their care.
If that makes me a cunt, then so be it. Maybe the world needs more cunts to be less 'emotionally cotton woolish' about things and get people to sharpen up.

Aside from the creepy stalker aspect of dredging up an old tale from the highway I mentioned in here ages ago, you could at least get the facts right.

I've NEVER lost a wheel off my trailer... Had one damaged due to negligence on part of mechanic and unfortunate combination of events. And the distance would have been 100km or less.
And I was aghast at the possible consequences/risks and did/do care about public image.
But hey let's not let facts get in the way of a diversionary rant.




That's kinda self evident.....

Don't flatter yourself man. I have a few truck driver friends and that one was too funny not to share. I also liked the one where a good truck driver was one that could doze off at the wheel and recover a B-Train from the grass verge while only taking out a road sign

[Big Dog]

fucking cyclists

Is that what you do with your Sundays?

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[Tazz]

But the bottom line is a driver that left home that morning not intending to hurt anyone, has ended up through misfortune being in the exact same space as a little girl out playing. No-one in this situation is right or solely to blame. Everyone could have done something in hindsight, but at the same time be it children riding bikes, pensioners walking on crossings, drunks at 4am, tourists in campervans, teens racing or motorcyclists commuting, there will be another 300 deaths this year where no-one intended their actions to result in that.

Yeah it was just the instant jump to saying that not only was the speed of the road to blame but that it was also a hazard they had complained about yanked my chain.

[Akzle]

Is that what you do with your Sundays?

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yes .

[Madness]

So you are the only one that can put words in peoples mouths then? Interesting that you do it to me and don't like it being done to yourself and a bit of a tell of character.

Hey, my bad. When you posted the laughing smiley I assumed you thought something was funny. It was wrong of me to assume, especially considering how prolific you are with emoticons now that you've finally figured them out, XD.

...it doesn't bring that poor wee girl back...

This thread doesn't do that either. All it does is make you look like the callous fuckwit that you are.

and it doesn't take away the scarring from the 2 victims of negligence. By saying the parents are victims here you are also saying that it is OK to have a 5 year old supervised by an 8 year old.

So you know for a fact that both parents were in fact leaving the 8-year old to supervise the dead 5-year old? You're sure that one parent, or both for that matter, weren't away from the property at the time of the accident? You're sure that another family member wasn't being tasked with supervising both children? Just because the Stuff reporter chose to focus on the speed limit doesn't preclude such possibilities, does it?

I don't agree with things written in (clearly) and have drawn on details from the same article you have.

The difference is that you're jumping to conclusions from very little information whilst I'd rather afford the parents the benefit of doubt in the absence of all of the facts.

The title is definitely harsh. I did try to change it to carelessness but the forum didn't allow it.

So does that make you compassionate, or spineless? I wonder.

At the end of the day, I still stand by saying that it is ludicrous for someone to identify a hazard, complain about it and then blame that hazard for the death of someone in their care.

You're putting too much weight on what was written by a Stuff reporter. Have some dignity and at least wait for the Coroners Inquest before slating the parents who have just lost a child. It's not like the kid died of having cigarettes extinguished on her face or was beaten with a frying pan.

If that makes me a cunt, then so be it. Maybe the world needs more cunts to be less 'emotionally cotton woolish' about things and get people to sharpen up.

Yeah, just what they need. Some jumped-up twat slagging them off on a motorcycle forum with fuck all facts. That should make them sharpen up, because the death of their child certainly won't do it.

In case you missed it, here's another recent similar death. Maybe you'd like to start a thread to slag these parents off as well? Hate to think they'd be wrapped up in emotional cotton wool, eh?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7749...ion-in-Waikato