Make yourself seen

[scumdog]

Yup.
He's slung the rifle incorrectly.

Maybe he doesn't want the cocking-handle gouging his kidneys?

[Berries]

That's what my wife says.

[Jin]

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Just sayin.

If high viz saved lives imagine what learning to ride that thing could do.

Just saying.

[nerrrd]

Hence...sod the "standard" Hi Viz look, I recommend the"hit me...and Im GOING to get up...and then kill you!" look

Yeah I could never pull that off sadly.

looking like a popo seems to make a differance. cant take it for granted though.

Especially when the Asian lady comes up to you in the supermarket carpark waving a ticket at you and and asking you to, errr, take it back I guess.

And today as a lady in a hatchback indicated and turned right in front of me without any hesitation, I thought of this thread. Still, we both made enough of an evasive manoeuvre in the end so as not to collide, so something worked somewhere. Reminded me that my reaction time is shit though - didn't even get on the horn, just braked, swerved and carried on.

[Berries]

Reminded me that my reaction time is shit though - didn't even get on the horn, just braked, swerved and carried on.

There is a lesson right there. What would the horn have done apart from waste that millisecond or two you needed to avoid the crash? Mine only gets used for the WOF and to scare children.

[PistonBlown]

Rastuscat is quite right



I find if I wear my "tidy" gear (Worn out textile gear, but looks all PC and friendly)...people don't really see me and generaly act like the standard blind driver

BUT...if I wear my "comfy" gear (Over a decade old leathers covered in KB patches and crap...looks like a gang member thats been through a bush backwards!)...the other road users seem to notice me more, stop tailgating, cutting me off and generally give me a wider berth.


Hence...sod the "standard" Hi Viz look, I recommend the"hit me...and Im GOING to get up...and then kill you!" look

Example:



...anyone wanna cut this guy above off
...yeah...didn't fuckin think so (Now imagine it was a High Viz AK47!...I want a pink my little pony one personally )



Ride Safe KBers (and Ride "armed" with some Hi Viz lol)

Huh you call that a gun, this is more like it...:-)
https://youtu.be/6kMpY1TEGng?t=59

Or for moped riders there's always the Vespa 150 TAP:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespa_150_TAP

[swbarnett]

There is a lesson right there. What would the horn have done apart from waste that millisecond or two you needed to avoid the crash? Mine only gets used for the WOF and to scare children.

That depends. I don't use my left thumb for emergency braking so it can go on the horn at the same time. I've used my horn as a deterrent a time or two in the last thirty years and it doesn't work all the time but it does work. Better to have two people trying to correct a bad situation than just one.

[Berries]

A deterrent is one thing, a warning to someone indicating to change lanes as you ride through their blind spot. But if someone hasn't seen you and you are a full second from impact why even bother to try and get their attention? Even if they do have great reaction times they are going to do something other than what they are doing, like stop and take out your escape route or accelerate and take out your other escape route. Worrying about the horn in those (most) circumstances is wasted brain effort when you need to be in full on survival mode.

Each to their own. I assume the horn button on my four month old bike is on the left hand handle bar. I'm just as likely to flash my headlights to tell them to pull out.

[awayatc]

That depends. I don't use my left thumb for emergency braking so it can go on the horn at the same time. I've used my horn as a deterrent a time or two in the last thirty years and it doesn't work all the time but it does work. Better to have two people trying to correct a bad situation than just one.

Agree completely..

always install loudest possible stebel horn on my bikes.
don't use them often.....
But when i do they get heard, and definitely have saved my day once or twice.....

[Maha]

That depends. I don't use my left thumb for emergency braking so it can go on the horn at the same time. I've used my horn as a deterrent a time or two in the last thirty years and it doesn't work all the time but it does work. Better to have two people trying to correct a bad situation than just one.

I had a stebel on my Sprint years ago, used it effectively on occasion most bike horns sound like they are made by Fisher Price.

[swbarnett]

I had a stebel on my Sprint years ago, used it effectively on occasion most bike horns sound like they are made by Fisher Price.

I only have the standard horn (actually a car horn from Repco after the original packed up). It seems to work when I need it. Although I dare say I'd get a quicker response with a stebel.

[pritch]

always install loudest possible stebel horn on my bikes.

Indeed. There was somebody on KB used to do group deals and that's how I got my last one.

I refer to it as my "wake the fuck up" horn. In dire situations though it tends to get overlooked, I'm too busy.

[Ocean1]

Indeed. There was somebody on KB used to do group deals and that's how I got my last one.

I've had them on three of my bikes. They've all been fairly involved installs that I didn't want to remove, so I keep having to buy new ones.

The SDR is overdue for one...

[awayatc]

Indeed. There was somebody on KB used to do group deals and that's how I got my last one.

I refer to it as my "wake the fuck up" horn. In dire situations though it tends to get overlooked, I'm too busy.

Buy on flea bay..... at least as cheap as the group deal on kb

a horn is a very important bit of kit in my mind.

no point in having to use it in anger and not being heard /taken seriously.


Once booted Stebel on my little pegaso at an Asian lady pretending i wasn't there....
She stalled her car in middle of intersection looking all panicky at all directions at once, trying to see where the Mack truck was that tooted the fuck off button at her.....

she never looked twice at my wee bike.

[awayatc]

I've had them on three of my bikes. They've all been fairly involved installs that I didn't want to remove, so I keep having to buy new ones.

The SDR is overdue for one...

Should be a piece of piss for a man with your skills....

i always use original horn wire as signal wire on relay....

Relays always handy for heated hangrips, usb chargers etc.....