MotoGP 2016

**merv** · 12th May 2016, 20:09

I still don't get it how the Honda was once the fastest point and squirt bike out there and somehow they now can't get it to accelerate off corners

**BMWST?** · 12th May 2016, 21:03

Originally Posted by merv

I still don't get it how the Honda was once the fastest point and squirt bike out there and somehow they now can't get it to accelerate off corners

i think the bikes are so finely tuned that the slightest change can have a relatively large effect.And its still a bit of a black art,the frame has got tbe to be flexy,but how flexy?I think they really miss the feedback from CS.I think dani is sortaslow to explre the outer limits of a new bike,and maybe MM doesnt really care.Until he finds he cant keep up.
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**pritch** · 13th May 2016, 08:51

http://pecinogp.com/pedrosa-honda-always-priority/

**roogazza** · 13th May 2016, 09:46

Originally Posted by pritch

http://pecinogp.com/pedrosa-honda-always-priority/

Cheers pritch, I never considered #26 likely to move ,he just doesn't seem the type if you look at his history.
How long he will keep going is more of a question huh ?

**Asher** · 13th May 2016, 16:03

Cruchlow going to Repsol makes a bit of sense to me.
He would likely happily accept a 1 year contract and it frees up the LCR seat for Rins who would take over from Cruchlow when his contract expires.
Both Yamaha and HRC have already made it clear they don't want to give a factory ride to a rookie and Rins is apparently holding out for a factory ride. It seems like a good compromise, although that's all assuming Pedrosa leaves HRC and Marquez is ok with Rins as a team mate.

**Erelyes** · 13th May 2016, 16:04

Originally Posted by merv

I still don't get it how the Honda was once the fastest point and squirt bike out there and somehow they now can't get it to accelerate off corners

Yeah, what Pedro's basically saying is, the motor's power delivery is pants, so they've changed some things, and now it's pants and (comparatively) gutless too.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 13th May 2016, 16:11

Originally Posted by Erelyes

Yeah, what Pedro's basically saying is, the motor's power delivery is pants, so they've changed some things, and now it's pants and (comparatively) gutless too.

Nah don't think it's gutless. He did seem to say it was accelerating ok in the upper gears, a sure sign it's actually got good HP. Just can't use what they have in the lower gears it would seem.

**Reckless** · 13th May 2016, 16:34

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Nah don't think it's gutless. He did seem to say it was accelerating ok in the upper gears, a sure sign it's actually got good HP. Just can't use what they have in the lower gears it would seem.

Yeh they didn't really say if its was loosing time because its nasty delivery and they cant get good drive or its power is delivered to high up and its gutless (or did I miss that bit).

**pritch** · 13th May 2016, 16:49

There are probably several things wrong with the Honda but I think wheelspin is the big problem when accelerating, particularly for Pedro who is such a lightweight.

**Reckless** · 13th May 2016, 17:13

Originally Posted by pritch

There are probably several things wrong with the Honda but I think wheelspin is the big problem when accelerating, particularly for Pedro who is such a lightweight.

yeh agree I also think they shouldn't get engine concessions to fix it, if they cant get it right and the others can we shouldnt change the rules about engines.
It is what it is, they fuck up they pay until next season and some other manufacturer gets a better shot.
Thats Racing

**Autech** · 13th May 2016, 17:56

Originally Posted by Reckless

yeh agree I also think they shouldn't get engine concessions to fix it, if they cant get it right and the others can we shouldnt change the rules about engines.
It is what it is, they fuck up the pay until next season and some other manufacturer gets a better shot.
Thats Racing

Bloody oath. Probably a mixture of engine n chassis, though if Mitchie get their rear close to as it was promising to be last year, look out! The tables could easily turn at any moment and we would have a Repsol 1-2.

We all had theories that Dani's ability to get a bike out of a corner would make him great for a mitchie. He is still doing his great stand ups too I noticed last week, god knows what he actually does to get the bike level out of a corner but it looks awesome the way the bike jumps up under him. Roll on Mugello for more dramas, I think we may have another Honda crash fest though.

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**merv** · 13th May 2016, 17:57

Yeah its not like Honda didn't know, because they stuffed it up the year before too and fell from their perch as the greatest engine maker then, whereas before that they had the drive out of corners, the first seamless gearbox etc etc and now they are sucking it up to Yamaha.

**roogazza** · 13th May 2016, 18:34

Originally Posted by Reckless

yeh agree I also think they shouldn't get engine concessions to fix it, if they cant get it right and the others can we shouldnt change the rules about engines.
It is what it is, they fuck up the pay until next season and some other manufacturer gets a better shot.
Thats Racing

Maybe Dorna should give them unlimited testing, soft rubber,their own electronics,extra fuel and what all. Oh and their own class,Factory2 ??? lol........ But wait ????

Honda will fix it, just watch. Cuppla GP's and it'll be all go.