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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    But they are building quickly


    And if America kicks up a stink, China can call in the debt and they China will own the USA.
    America will simply print some more money. Or re write the rule books.
    " Rule books are for the Guidance of the Wise, and the Obedience of Fools"

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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    America will simply print some more money. Or re write the rule books.
    Two things

    Zbigniew brinisky It all there in his book a "grand chessboard"

    and China , ,,,,has a National bank ....ie its money is debt free

    and in a collapsing economy , and especially if you need a world paradigm shift. You need a global event.

    IMHO , not a matter of "IF" but "when"

    BTW

    your looking at a 50 km radius blast for a nuke ,,, fk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    BTW

    your looking at a 50 km radius blast for a nuke ,,, fk
    Not even close! the Tsar Bomba (largest nuke ever detonated - 57 MT) has a Blast radius of 13 Km.
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    For the US to have a war with China they need a Proxy, Vietnam.....no they did that.....Korea?.......maybe....
    Taiwan...maybe.
    But would not a war with China mean no more stuff?


    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Not even close! the Tsar Bomba (largest nuke ever detonated - 57 MT) has a Blast radius of 13 Km.
    this is what I read yesterday

    I prefer your number, second link is X22 report and he kinda sums things up ......

    https://thesurvivalplaceblog.com/2013/06/30/how-close-can-you-be-to-survive-a-nuclear-bomb-blast/


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTzXe3-FCyQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    For the US to have a war with China they need a Proxy, Vietnam.....no they did that.....Korea?.......maybe....
    Taiwan...maybe.
    But would not a war with China mean no more stuff?
    Well don't overlook North Korea - they have no (Rothschild affiliated) federal reserve bank and have been teased up all ready for quite some years now!

    Borders with both Russia and China and both have been suitably primed as hostile to USA best interests and are also bracketed with Israel's arch enemy Iran!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    For the US to have a war with China they need a Proxy, Vietnam.....no they did that.....Korea?.......maybe....
    Taiwan...maybe.
    But would not a war with China mean no more stuff?

    been saying that for a while , I was looking back , yesterday , through me old notes... evernote!


    The global economy is slowing to the point of collapse
    The same conditions as in the 1933 stock market crash are in place , stratospheric stock market, zero interest and 99% of the population dumber than horse manure ( they weren't in the 1930s)
    When you look at the trends of the us economy, right before a Regime change they tank the economy. The very nature of a capitalist debt based economy is that it is cyclic and NEEDS to be reset..
    And if you want a global paradigm shift you need a global event, such as Breton woods and how did Breton woods come to be?
    So with a high probability of a reset coming , it doesn't matter what buffoon you have as a mouthpiece. They are not the ones calling the shots. Look for the money. the trilateral commission, Rockefeller .Zbiginew Brzinsky.. Kissinger... these nut-jobs are the real power ..and there are probably people controlling them . I can't prove that point though, they have increased their rhetoric since the Soviet collapse, as this cleared away any opposition.
    Either way If American keeps its current foreign policy it will end in war with either Russia or China .. possibly through a third party .

    If Britain remains in the EU the Anglo American money will use the EU to step up provocations towards the Russians and or China or the third party ... if Britain leaves the EU then expected the pound to be attacked and devaluation to occur. Either way
    This will cause large social unrest ..war is the easiest option as it will most likely be nuclear and the resulting mess is easier to police.
    So if it inevitable that large social unrest will happen therefore:
    You as a government need ... a small compliant population.. ,either brain-dead or unarmed. Scared shirtless that the boogie man will eat their children for breakfast false flags such as Paris ,Brussels , sandy hook ,,and a controlled media, help no end in the scaring of the sheep.
    So that under the pretense of protecting society draconian laws can be introduced. Kiss good bye to any freedoms you have now. Internet, the right to free speech , healthy food privacy , these are all being discussed and removed right now ..not if ..but actually happening
    The technique of how this happens is well thought out . Trilateral commission and globalists have a plan , outlined above. They set out an agreement using a event that effects us all , such as global warming , environmental concerns . Using such an agreement ,agenda 21 or agenda 2o30 as it is called now. Policies are put in place at the local level using people who think they are helping humanity, when actually they the people are assisting in the creation of this hunger games society , such as , steering committees ICLEI ( Rockefeller owned and operated ...and Auckland New Zealand "5 point plan" is really just ICLEI's plan in different colours.

    So while the word conspiracy may evoke all sorts of ideas , there is provably a global plan for the few to relive the golden age, based of the sufferings of us , the great unwashed ....

    Finally , if you the person reading this thinks I'm wrong , now is your chance to offer evidence either for or against and to ask me for my evidence. Wake up people , she's all on .......



    and


    I havent settled on how, its is only a matter of when things get interesting and people start to dust off the pitchforks

    a deflationary cycle , or an inflationary one

    At the moment there is a lot of money churning between the government and private banks increasing at the very minimum of the 10 year bond rate.

    Due to the removal of the glass steagal act , banks may also speculate leading to an over inflated stock market and bubbles in assets , housing etc .

    If, due to the dedollarisation and/or a combination of the above, people start to feel alienated , unempowered or just pissed off, one small unconnected event may be all it takes. London , bedroom tax march , or NHS and London goes south!

    The collapsing reserve currency, In Europe , a grexit will happen followed by Spain or Italy and that will lead to possibly a total European economic collapse/ readjustment . Greece was 300 billion , spain owes over a trillion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post

    Finally , if you the person reading this thinks I'm wrong , now is your chance to offer evidence either for or against and to ask me for my evidence. Wake up people , she's all on .......
    I do think you are wrong - probably the best argument is your own statement:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    I can't prove that point though,
    Now, I'm not saying that the scenario painted is impossible - but as you say - you can't prove it, the problem here is that we have heard these doom and gloom predictions before, they couldn't prove it either and despite all the incidents that people point to as 'proof' that there is an GUCT (Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory) - it hasn't resulted in the civilization ending apocalypse that the proponents claimed it would.
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    Well fuck, Brian, you've got me worried now - do i finish the engines and bikes i have here or do i concentrate on the bomb shelter ?

    What's the effect likely to be on my pacemaker at roughly 70km radius ? Assuming ChCh is important enough to attract a nuke....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Well fuck, Brian, you've got me worried now - do i finish the engines and bikes i have here or do i concentrate on the bomb shelter ?

    What's the effect likely to be on my pacemaker at roughly 70km radius ? Assuming ChCh is important enough to attract a nuke....
    I remember watching " The Day After' at the Lido in 1983 smuggly knowing my car had points ignition and I'd be ok. might rig up the

    old P and T manual phones from the shed to the house too.
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I do think you are wrong - probably the best argument is your own statement:



    Now, I'm not saying that the scenario painted is impossible - but as you say - you can't prove it, the problem here is that we have heard these doom and gloom predictions before, they couldn't prove it either and despite all the incidents that people point to as 'proof' that there is an GUCT (Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory) - it hasn't resulted in the civilization ending apocalypse that the proponents claimed it would.
    All ya got to do is put up the evidence I'm wrong

    Simple

    Also the money churn between banks and government ,high ten yr I can't remember what I meant and I got that wrong , strong dollar policy pushing 10 year yields down maybe
    But I wrote that a year ago 15/6/15
    And I seems to be on track so far ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Well fuck, Brian, you've got me worried now - do i finish the engines and bikes i have here or do i concentrate on the bomb shelter ?

    What's the effect likely to be on my pacemaker at roughly 70km radius ? Assuming ChCh is important enough to attract a nuke....
    How quickly can ya do the bikes ... they usually tank the economy just before an election

    Or u could relocate to wiamate ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    How quickly can ya do the bikes ... they usually tank the economy just before an election

    Or u could relocate to wiamate ..

    sent for a divine source
    They're mainly race bikes so probably useless post apocalypse....
    Have you been talking to my wife ? She wants to go to Oamaru...I don't.
    It would probably be quite safe there though, hmmm.

    Found your divine source yet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    They're mainly race bikes so probably useless post apocalypse....
    Have you been talking to my wife ? She wants to go to Oamaru...I don't.
    It would probably be quite safe there though, hmmm.

    Found your divine source yet ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    All ya got to do is put up the evidence I'm wrong

    Simple
    Except you have never provided evidence that you are right - you even concede this yourself that you can't prove these points. All you have is conjecture.
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