The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**pritch** · 17th November 2016, 08:54

Trump and his family are treating the presidency as a marketing opportunity. And that's just the beginning.

An interesting titbit this morning, some were surprised when Chris Christie was dropped from Trump's team. It turns out the when Christie was DA he jailed Trump's son in law's father for fraud. What goes around...

I loved it when reading a Hillary strategist claiming that Hillary lost because of the sexism of the Bernie Bros. Never mind that the democrats put up a badly damaged candidate, one of the most unpopular in the whole history of the country. As a result the people who should have come out to vote for her stayed home. With strategists like that it should be no surprise that they blew it. Of course the people who stayed home and didn't vote are now out protesting, they need to work on their timing.

**Katman** · 17th November 2016, 09:06

Originally Posted by pritch

I loved it when reading a Hillary strategist claiming that Hillary lost because of the sexism of the Bernie Bros. Never mind that the democrats put up a badly damaged candidate, one of the most unpopular in the whole history of the country. As a result the people who should have come out to vote for her stayed home. With strategists like that it should be no surprise that they blew it. Of course the people who stayed home and didn't vote are now out protesting, they need to work on their timing.

It's almost like there's a method to 'their' madness.

**Banditbandit** · 17th November 2016, 09:42

Originally Posted by yokel

So what if some of the wall is a fence ya dopey cum catcher.

The fucking wall/fence already exists .. look at the fucking pictures I posted .. Trump has done a con job on ignorant people ..

**mashman** · 17th November 2016, 09:54

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

The fucking wall/fence already exists .. look at the fucking pictures I posted .. Trump has done a con job on ignorant people ..

And they still tunneled under it

**Grumph** · 17th November 2016, 10:31

I had to laugh at what I saw on another (US) forum. They were talking half seriously about financing the wall and a Canadian remarked that he hadn't heard anything about financing a wall on the Canadian border....and where should he send his cheque.

**Brian d marge** · 17th November 2016, 11:47

Originally Posted by mashman

1900

You will be surprised how far back that scam goes..
Let's just say, there is a two ton car man involved

sent for a divine source

**pritch** · 17th November 2016, 14:36

Just to provide a sense of perspective, this stunning piece of silliness by Boris Johnson who would like to be Prime Minister of the UK.

Carlo Calenda, an Italian economics minister, said it was insulting that Johnson had told him during a recent meeting that Italy would grant Britain access to the EU’s single market “because you don’t want to lose prosecco exports”.

“He basically said: ‘I don’t want free movement of people but I want the single market,’” he told Bloomberg.
“I said: ‘No way.’
He said: ‘You’ll sell less prosecco.’
I said: ‘OK, you’ll sell less fish and chips, but I’ll sell less prosecco to one country and you’ll sell less to 27 countries.’
Putting things on this level is a bit insulting.”

After four months the UK Govt haven't got a bloody clue how to go about Brexit. They said they were keeping their plan secret but it turned out they didn't have one.

Not all the clueless politicians live in the USA.

**Brian d marge** · 17th November 2016, 14:44

Originally Posted by pritch

Just to provide a sense of perspective, this stunning piece of silliness by Boris Johnson who would like to be Prime Minister of the UK.

Carlo Calenda, an Italian economics minister, said it was insulting that Johnson had told him during a recent meeting that Italy would grant Britain access to the EU’s single market “because you don’t want to lose prosecco exports”.

“He basically said: ‘I don’t want free movement of people but I want the single market,’” he told Bloomberg.
“I said: ‘No way.’
He said: ‘You’ll sell less prosecco.’
I said: ‘OK, you’ll sell less fish and chips, but I’ll sell less prosecco to one country and you’ll sell less to 27 countries.’
Putting things on this level is a bit insulting.”

After four months the UK Govt haven't got a bloody clue how to go about Brexit. They said they were keeping their plan secret but it turned out they didn't have one.

Not all the clueless politicians live in the USA.

No it's how to get back on track with the agenda.

As in the stupid people have screwed our plans up , now what do we do

sent for a divine source

**mashman** · 17th November 2016, 15:04

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

You will be surprised how far back that scam goes..
Let's just say, there is a two ton car man involved

sent for a divine source

Not really. I read that in the bible. Wait til they come to understand that money was created for the specific purpose of slavery, not the facilitation of trade as they live in doctor nation.

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

No it's how to get back on track with the agenda.

As in the stupid people have screwed our plans up , now what do we do

sent for a divine source

Same as last time... and the time before that... and the time before that... and, ach, I'm sure ya'll get the point.

**jasonu** · 17th November 2016, 16:03

Originally Posted by bogan

Some of the blame surely rests on those who elected a president who ran on a platform of divisive policy.

Yep put the blame for shitty behavior from sore losers on someone else. Fucking great...

**yokel** · 17th November 2016, 16:40

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

The fucking wall/fence already exists .. look at the fucking pictures I posted .. Trump has done a con job on ignorant people ..

Maybe just maybe the current wall/fence is not fit for purpose you autistic knob.

I don't know fuck all about Trumps wall plans and neither do you.

I'm going to wait and see what Trump actually does before casting any judgment, but looks like he's making a good start, still early days .

**bogan** · 17th November 2016, 16:41

Originally Posted by jasonu

Yep put the blame for shitty behavior from sore losers on someone else. Fucking great...

As opposed to, shut up and support the divisive policy you didn't vote for, much less agree with? I don't think that is quite how democracy works...which given brexit and now trump, it arguably doesn't.

They have a legitimate cause to protest, is free speech not a god-given right over there anymore?