"Hey babe, what's your gender?"

**ellipsis** · 21st March 2017, 08:46

Originally Posted by Jeff Sichoe

The only real fair thing to do at this point is have a third, 'open', category in addition to the existing gender-specific competition.

...much like a BSA 'Goldie', full of Yamaha bits has to run in the Pre '63 'Modified', class with the Classic Register?...

**FlangMasterJ** · 21st March 2017, 11:57

Originally Posted by Laava

I think you'll find he did the "clean and jerk" before the "snatch"!

**pritch** · 21st March 2017, 12:31

Watching the news I wondered about the lifter. I wondered even more about the blonde spokesperson who couldn't see that there might be a problem.

In NZ the local organisers are probably free to do what they like, as soon as it goes international the stop sign will likely go up. Transgender athletes at the Olympics?
That definitely looks like the "too hard basket", bearing in mind their recent history of sex tests.

**FlangMasterJ** · 21st March 2017, 13:09

Chopping ones knobber off and going on hormone replacement therapy doesn't alter a dudes skeletal structure. Limb length affects leverages greatly and in a sport where it's all about technique, leverages are everything. Not to mention even with lower testosterone this fruit is still going to have greater muscle mass than the next largest female.

It's totally fucked.

**husaberg** · 21st March 2017, 15:54

Originally Posted by FlangMasterJ

Chopping ones knobber off and going on hormone replacement therapy doesn't alter a dudes skeletal structure. Limb length affects leverages greatly and in a sport where it's all about technique, leverages are everything. Not to mention even with lower testosterone this fruit is still going to have greater muscle mass than the next largest female.

It's totally fucked.

Its not always so clear cut.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya

I note the only Olympic sport i can think of where gender is irrelevant is equestrian.

Anyway the gender gap appears to be 10%
https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...re-not/260927/

**Woodman** · 21st March 2017, 17:28

Originally Posted by husaberg

Its not always so clear cut.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya

I note the only Olympic sport i can think of where gender is irrelevant is equestrian.

Anyway the gender gap appears to be 10%
https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...re-not/260927/

Yet in the LA Olympics they still sex tested the equestrian riders. Except Princess Anne whose lineage/gender could be proved.

**husaberg** · 21st March 2017, 18:26

Originally Posted by Woodman

Yet in the LA Olympics they still sex tested the equestrian riders. Except Princess Anne whose lineage/gender could be proved.

They should of tested her to see if she was a horse..
ps it was 1976 Montreal
http://www.topendsports.com/events/s...er-testing.htm

The IAAF have guidelines for gender verification adopted in April 2011 (largely in response to the issues with Semenya), in which female athletes now have to fall below a certain threshold of testosterone. For many female athletes the new eligibility criteria means compulsory hormonal therapy.
For the 2012 Olympic Games, officials implemented a test of testosterone levels. However, unlike past tests which were given to all competitors in women's events, this test will be administered only when the chief medical officer of a national Olympic committee or a member of the IOC's medical commission requests it. The new rules disqualify athletes from women's events if they have testosterone levels in the normal male range, which is 7 to 30 nanomoles per liter in the blood. The top range for women is just below 3 nanomoles per liter. Athletes with complete androgen insensitivity will be allowed to compete.
Following the 2003 Stockholm Consensus, transsexuals (those who have had a sex change from male to female) were permitted to compete in women's events at the Olympics as long they underwent gender reassignment surgery, as well as having legal recognition of their assigned gender and at least two years of hormone therapy.
In 2016, The IOC introduced changes. There are now no conditions placed upon those who transition from female to male gender, making them free to compete. Trans-athletes aiming to compete in female events are not required to undergo reassignment surgery, though they must demonstrate that their total testosterone level in serum has been below 10 nmol/L for at least 12 months prior to their first competition.