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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    Anyone that supports free speech is moving to the right.
    Thank you so much for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi View Post
    Lawyers? I think I would be prepared to try harder to manage without
    I am disappoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    Anyone that supports free speech is moving to the right.
    Really?



    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    Whoops, looks like you misted something during your "fast forwarding".

    Yes it's a pain in the arse having principles, but there's good reason why something should be a principle.

    https://www.ebcala.org/areas-of-law/...nal-misconduct
    Do you mean "missed"?
    I didn't mention Walker-Smith, only Wakefield.
    If you read the actual ruling from that hearing you will see in what are stated as undisputed facts that: "There is now no respectable body of opinion which supports his [Wakefield's] hypothesis, that MMR vaccine and autism/enterocolitis are causally linked. "
    Much of the case in Walker-Smith's defence was that he was reluctant to make the connections Wakefield asserted, was not happy with the press briefings Wakefield conducted and the evidence was not conclusive for Wakefield's assertions.
    There was also some mileage for the defence of Walker-Smith that what he thought he was doing was not the same as Wakefield was trying to do.

    None of this changes the fact that data was fabricated and nothing has been produced since to substantiate Wakefield's claims

    Does that mean it never will? How would I know? Its possible. Until then "because I say so" (on the part of Wakefield) is not sufficient evidence to make a decision.

    Absolutely, principles can be challenging to uphold. For one I firmly believe Otago made the right decision to allow the showing of Wakefield's film. There is nothing to be feared in getting to the truth.

    By the way, you still have not answered my questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I am disappoint.
    awww, everybody has to hate somebody right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Mate, everyone is in it for the money, you, me, mother Teresa, everyone. Get over it and move on.
    Do me a favour - don't speak for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Do me a favour - don't speak for me.
    Do yourself a favour-be honest with yourself.
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Do yourself a favour-be honest with yourself.
    'In it for the money' suggests that money is the number 1 priority.

    It's not for me - so do yourself a favour and don't speak for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    'In it for the money' suggests that money is the number 1 priority.

    It's not for me - so do yourself a favour and don't speak for me.
    Then do it for free.
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Then do it for free.
    I have to eat too.

    But money is not what I focus on in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I have to eat too.

    But money is not what I focus on in life.
    And what do you buy your food with?

    Every customer who walks in your door supplies you with money. That money pays for food, mortgage, concubines etcetcetc.

    Unless you are a trustfund baby and your business is a front then you are in it for the money.
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Unless you are a trustfund baby and your business is a front then you are in it for the money.
    Seriously, don't speak for me.

    How about instead you just accept the fact that your definition of 'in it for the money' appears to be different to mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    The first step in problem solving is to admit a problem exists. Second step is to correctly identify the problem. I think that's where we are going wrong at the moment.
    The more important third step is coming up with the correct solution ... which is not as easy as it sounds.

    If the problem is motorcyclists crashing at the end of straight pieces of road ... current thinking seems to be straightening the corners as the solution.

    Some may say a logical solution to a common problem.

    What could possibly be wrong with this theory ..??

    Free speech is commonly lauded as being one of your basic human rights in a free country ... many believing it applies anywhere and anytime. These people also believe that freedom to speak your mind will (should ??) have no repercussions (financially, physically, or verbally/written) on or about themselves ... for anything they have stated.

    Free speech is fine ... but to be totally free ... there must be the free right to reply.

    And be able to accept ... that others may not agree with their stupid conspiracy theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    Thanks. seriously.

    By the way, I was lying in bed last night and I have invented a newish device.

    I am going to take existing drone technology, and I am going to get some vaccines and I am going to fly the drone into fuckwith anti-vaxxers houses and basically cropdust vaccines over the sleeping children. I will also cropdust contraception over the sleeping adults who are clearly unfit to breed.

    When I rule you all (and I will) shit's gonna change, yo.
    Well thats putting out fires with gasoline right there....

    So you propose terrorist action (this is the worst as you are proving people like alex jones right that the next wave of terrorists will be right wing white nutters) with misuse of drones and violation of CAA guidelines to assault sleeping toddlers and parents.
    Just because they choose not to take an expensive corporate controlled medication that may or may not work.....

    I do like that you choose to administer it proeprly though. Being exposed through the mucus membranes of the throat and sinus is where the key receptor cells are that identify invading pathigens and trigger the bodies repsonse systems in the right way. This is way better than injecting a toxic syrup containign additives and preservatives straight into the blood stream which shocks the body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Seriously, don't speak for me.

    How about instead you just accept the fact that your definition of 'in it for the money' appears to be different to mine.
    My guess is that our definitions are pretty similar.
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    Is Alex Jones a scientist? Nope he's just a journalist.
    And seen as the mainstream media has gone full retard PC leftist that leaves it up to other alternative information streams.


    Hate to break it to you but Alex is mainstream and controlled just like the rest. Maybe he will be better now his jewish wife has left him... But I gave up listening to him about 7 years ago. Whenever someone is going to break some new vital info he cuts them off and goes to an ad break and then changes topic if they still on air.
    There are way better sources of alternative news and info...

    https://alexjonesexposed.info/

    http://adventofdeception.com/deception-alex-jones/
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