The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[austingtir]

Mr dirkadirka must have got a hell of a shock when orange man bad sent him a missile instead of pallets of cash like michaels husband obomber sent.

[husaberg]

Mr dirkadirka must have got a hell of a shock when orange man bad sent him a missile instead of pallets of cash like michaels husband obomber sent.

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[Bonez]

Mr dirkadirka must have got a hell of a shock when orange man bad sent him a missile instead of pallets of cash like michaels husband obomber sent.

Not mention the confirmed billion plus in wire transfers after that.

[pritch]

The thought occurs that most of us know little of Iran and I was there but very briefly, just long enough to stick another pin on the map.

I've been following the travel blog "Itchy Boots" on YouTube, this series has been mentioned elsewhere on KB. In Series 1 Epsode 53 she crosses into Iran, the following few episodes detail her contacts with the people which are generally pleasant. The locals were exceptionally helpful when she struck mechanical problems. A marked contrast to what little we see the press which is generally negative.

[austingtir]

The thought occurs that most of us know little of Iran and I was there but very briefly, just long enough to stick another pin on the map.

I've been following the travel blog "Itchy Boots" on YouTube, this series has been mentioned elsewhere on KB. In Series 1 Epsode 53 she crosses into Iran, the following few episodes detail her contacts with the people which are generally pleasant. The locals were exceptionally helpful when she struck mechanical problems. A marked contrast to what we see the press which is generally negative.

I agree actually. I think many of the Iranian people are probably fine (yet Golriz who we have here is not a shining example imo). Its these scumbags they have running the country that are the problem.

Trump sums it up brilliantly all round here actually.

"We took action last night to stop a war, not to start a war."

[sugilite:Me]

If the iranian people are smart they will overthrow their muslim dictator overlords and take a step back to the 70's when they were a normal nation without an axe to grind.

That imo is Iran's only way out of all this. Eventually the USA will take them out one way or another. But it wont be under Trump.


You lot as usual are totally misreading the situation.

The 1970's period you mention was when the USA had installed their puppet Shah. So hardly normal for Iran.
The fact that the USA had installed the very unpopular Shah is what gave the Iranian people the axe to grind. (in modern times context)
So, ummm Austin, who is misreading the situation?
Btw, Trump has so many pressure points to push (leaking his tax returns for instance), that the powers that are really in charge - will have few problems forcing Trumps hand when they feel the time is right. Sad but true I'm afraid.

[pritch]

Btw, Trump has so many pressure points to push (leaking his tax returns for instance), that the powers that are really in charge - will have few problems forcing Trumps hand when they feel the time is right. Sad but true I'm afraid.

Another pressure point has received attention in the last day or so.

No US banks will deal with Trump, he is regarded as a bad risk, Deutsche Bank alone have been prepared to take that risk. Trump has defaulted on multiple Deutsche Bank loans. He also sued the bank. That history would not bode well for a future loan from Deutsche Bank, yet strangely they subsequently loaned him another 750 million dollars. This puzzled people who usually know about such things because that is seriously unusual banking behaviour. In 2016 it attracted the attention of the bank's board who ordered a report into the bank's business with Trump. It has also attracted the attention of the Attorney General of New York.

We have read previously the suggestion that this most recent loan was guaranteed by Russian oligarchs but apparently that is not quite right. A former Deutsche Bank employee now says that the 750 million was actually a loan from the Russian state bank, it was just funnelled through Deutsche Bank. Somewhat in the manner of a(nother) money laundering operation.

This is interesting because a presidential candidate not declaring a loan from the Russian government would be a serious impeachable offence. Yes, yet another one.

Perhaps that's why he phoned Putin to ask permission to assassinate an Iranian before he asked Congress?

No wonder Trump is trying to block access to his financial records.

[sugilite:Me]

A Modern Air Force?!?!

No.

They have a few MIG 29s, a few Tomcats (Nice Aircraft but Obsolete, and without the Pheonix missile, not really much of a threat), F4 Phantoms (Vietnam....)

So No.

In fact, Iraq in the first Gulf War lost nearly as many MIGs as the Iranians currently have - Remind me again how well the Iraqi armed forces stood up.

Agreed, not much of an airforce really. But if it came to a boots on the ground conflict, I still would not like to be an American soldier there for what exactly? Certainly nothing worth dying for.

You mentioned a while back that Greta Thunbergs parents encouraged her into activism - interesting to read a article with actual quotes from her parents on said subject.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...imate-activism
Not saying she is not fair game for her activism activities, just more so it does not appear based on her parents quotes that they were behind it.
So many articles from so called journalists from all sides just printing shit that they feel will get a reaction - truth be dammed.

[sugilite:Me]

Another pressure point has received attention in the last day or so.

No US banks will deal with Trump, he is regarded as a bad risk, Deutsche Bank alone have been prepared to take that risk. Trump has defaulted on multiple Deutsche Bank loans. He also sued the bank. That history would not bode well for a future loan from Deutsche Bank, yet strangely they subsequently loaned him another 750 million dollars. This puzzled people who usually know about such things because that is seriously unusual banking behaviour. In 2016 it attracted the attention of the bank's board who ordered a report into the bank's business with Trump. It has also attracted the attention of the Attorney General of New York.

We have read previously the suggestion that this most recent loan was guaranteed by Russian oligarchs but apparently that is not quite right. A former Deutsche Bank employee now says that the 750 million was actually a loan from the Russian state bank, it was just funnelled through Deutsche Bank. Somewhat in the manner of a(nother) money laundering operation.

This is interesting because a presidential candidate not declaring a loan from the Russian government would be a serious impeachable offence. Yes, yet another one.

Perhaps that's why he phoned Putin to ask permission to assassinate an Iranian before he asked Congress.

No wonder Trump is trying to block access to his financial records.

Yep, exactly what I was alluding too Pritch. Austin and Austin 2.0 will struggle with the concept of when a business man is denied funds, they will take what they can get from where ever they can get it just to stay afloat. And Trump was certainly undeniably in that position. So logically, if course that is would likely be the main reason he is soooo desperate to keep his tax records hidden. His position would be rendered untenable were they to be released - and he and his confides know it.

[austingtir]

Yep, exactly what I was alluding too Pritch. Austin and Austin 2.0 will struggle with the concept of when a business man is denied funds, they will take what they can get from where ever they can get it just to stay afloat. And Trump was certainly undeniably in that position. So logically, if course that is would likely be the main reason he is soooo desperate to keep his tax records hidden. His position would be rendered untenable were they to be released - and he and his confides know it.

Like the Bidens and Clintons taking money from pretty much EVERYWHERE on the planet?

NZ alone gave Clinton 25million of our taxpayer dollars....

What for?


We'll never know because TDS fools like you lot are more worried about Orange man and some made up stories.

[austingtir]

Militia Leader Shibl al-Zaydi Killed In 2nd Iraq Strike-----First US Casualties Reported


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartanntp


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-in-taji-iraq/



Meanwhile: Two US servicemen reportedly suffering from Hand Cramps. They are now down at the local pub receiving treatment....

[sugilite:Me]

Like the Bidens and Clintons taking money from pretty much EVERYWHERE on the planet?

NZ alone gave Clinton 25million of our taxpayer dollars....

What for?


We'll never know because TDS fools like you lot are more worried about Orange man and some made up stories.

Austin, your ignorance, while once adorbs and laughable, is now getting really cringe worthy - like just so so sad now.

How can your TDS brain not acknowledge there is a very real reason Trump is soooo desperate to hide his tax records after publicly saying several times he will release them.
Let me give you a hint in as few a syllable words as possible - he has lots of dirt in them.

And by the way - if it comes to be - no amount of the "what abouts" are going to save him.

[austingtir]

[pritch]

Austin, your ignorance, while once adorbs and laughable, is now getting really cringe worthy - like just so so sad now.

I've never thought him ignorant, others here yes, but not him.

There used to be special places for special people like him, but Jenny Shipley gave us "care in the community". So this community gets Austingtir.

[austingtir]

I've never thought him ignorant, others here yes, but not him.

There used to be special places for special people like him, but Jenny Shipley gave us "care in the community". So this community gets Austingtir.

^^Its time to go to bed Rose...

https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/stat...76832544460801


I guess doing drugs and getting diddled by Harvey Weinstein does mess you up some.....