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    The US Food and Drug Administration is working through the process to approve, or not, the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine. The FDA is supposed to do this free from any political pressure in the interests of public safety.

    Mark Meadows, Trump's Chief of Staff, has told the head of the FDA to approve the vaccine today or submit his resignation. No pressure there then.



    Update:

    And as if by magic, the FDA have announced that the Pfizer vaccine is approved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    The US Food and Drug Administration is working through the process to approve, or not, the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine. The FDA is supposed to do this free from any political pressure in the interests of public safety.

    Mark Meadows, Trump's Chief of Staff, has told the head of the FDA to approve the vaccine today or submit his resignation. No pressure there then.



    Update:

    And as if by magic, the FDA have announced that the Pfizer vaccine is approved.
    What public safety? Do you know the makers are protected by law from being taken to court if anyone dies from a vaccine???
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    What public safety? Do you know the makers are protected by law from being taken to court if anyone dies from a vaccine???
    not entirely correct.
    https://www.policymed.com/2011/03/su...-lawsuits.html
    The Supreme Court explained that the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (NCVIA or Act) preempts all design-defect claims against vaccine manufacturers brought by plaintiffs seeking compensation for injury or death caused by a vaccine’s side effects.
    products-liability law establishes three grounds for liability—defective manufacture, inadequate directions or warnings, and defective design

    They can still sue, but Epidemiological judgments about vaccine design to the FDA and the National Vaccine Program rather than juries.”
    The Supreme Court’s decision came from the fact that “vaccine manufacturers fund from their sales an informal, efficient compensation program for vaccine injuries. In exchange, they avoid costly tort litigation and the occasional disproportionate jury verdict.”
    According to an article from Reuters, the vaccine court has awarded more than $1.8 billion for vaccine injury claims in nearly 2,500 cases since 1989.
    American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) president O. Marion Burton applauded the Supreme Court’s decision in a statement. He noted that the “decision protects children by strengthening our national immunization system and ensuring that vaccines will continue to prevent the spread of infectious diseases in this country.”
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    Double whammy here.....

    Aussie version of vax produces false positives to HIV....
    Never mind the HIV testing issues anyway, two people can have same test results but only be called positive if they made wrong lifestyle choices....

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...anned-74666426

    So if this vax makes people false positive for HIV, how do we know if other vax produce maybe false covid positives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    https://www.policymed.com/2011/03/su...-lawsuits.html
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    According to an article from Reuters, the vaccine court has awarded more than $1.8 billion for vaccine injury claims in nearly 2,500 cases since 1989.
    Interesting to see the damages amount in the earlier link mentioned above. I'd seen an article this week that quoted a slightly higher amount.

    https://thevaccinereaction.org/2019/...es-and-deaths/

    Just over $4 billion, but qualified it that approx $1 billion had been for vaccine affected victims in just the last 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    Interesting to see the damages amount in the earlier link mentioned above. I'd seen an article this week that quoted a slightly higher amount.

    https://thevaccinereaction.org/2019/...es-and-deaths/

    Just over $4 billion, but qualified it that approx $1 billion had been for vaccine affected victims in just the last 4 years.

    The compensation paid out is for people that were genuinely medically affected by vaccines. Or where the case was settled.
    Approximately 70 percent of all compensation awarded by the VICP comes as result of a
    negotiated settlement between the parties in which HHS has not concluded
    , based upon review
    of the evidence, that the alleged vaccine(s) caused the alleged injury
    No one has ever said there weren't people that have not had adverse vaccine reactions or compilations or allergies also not all of the compensation is for the drug complications either, some are also from the administration.
    in your own linked article
    The HRSA report reveals that over the past 30 years (since 1989), the VICP has received 20,123 petitions claiming vaccine injury and death, out of which 18,000 claims have been resolved. Of those 17,576 cases, 6,313 cases (about two out of three claims) have received compensation awards via settlements or judgments.1 2 Nevertheless, HRSA does not acknowledge that vaccine injuries are rare and estimates that one person has been compensated for every million doses distributed in the United States
    .

    How many petitions have been awarded compensation?
    According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2018 over 3.7 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in
    the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 7,565 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of
    those 5,297 were compensated. This means for every 1 million doses of vaccine that were distributed,
    approximately 1 individual was compensated.
    Since 1988, over 22,685 petitions have been filed with the VICP. Over that 30-year time period, 19,403
    petitions have been adjudicated, with 7,705 of those determined to be compensable, while 11,698 were
    dismissed. Total compensation paid over the life of the program is approximately $4.4 billion.
    by far the largest amount of claims were for flu vaccines. Well over half.
    yet the ones claimed by the antivaxer to cause problems have very few awarded claims, or in fact very few claims at all...........


    Petitions Filed
    Fiscal Year Total
    FY 1988 24
    FY 1989 148
    FY 1990 1,492
    FY 1991 2,718
    FY 1992 189
    FY 1993 140
    FY 1994 107
    FY 1995 180
    FY 1996 84
    FY 1997 104
    FY 1998 120
    FY 1999 411
    FY 2000 164
    FY 2001 215
    FY 2002 958
    FY 2003 2,592
    FY 2004 1,214
    FY 2005 735
    FY 2006 325
    FY 2007 410
    FY 2008 417
    FY 2009 397
    FY 2010 448
    FY 2011 386
    FY 2012 401
    FY 2013 504
    FY 2014 633
    FY 2015 803
    FY 2016 1,120
    FY 2017 1,243
    FY 2018 1,238
    FY 2019 1,282
    FY 2020 1,191
    FY 2021 290
    Total 22,685


    Adjudications
    Generally, petitions are not adjudicated in the same fiscal year as filed.
    On average, it takes 2 to 3 years to adjudicate a petition after it is filed.
    Fiscal Year Compensable Dismissed Total
    FY 1989 9 12 21
    FY 1990 100 33 133
    FY 1991 141 447 588
    FY 1992 166 487 653
    FY 1993 125 588 713
    FY 1994 162 446 608
    FY 1995 160 575 735
    FY 1996 162 408 570
    FY 1997 189 198 387
    FY 1998 144 181 325
    FY 1999 98 139 237
    FY 2000 125 104 229
    FY 2001 86 88 174
    FY 2002 104 104 208
    FY 2003 56 100 156
    FY 2004 62 247 309
    FY 2005 60 229 289
    FY 2006 69 193 262
    FY 2007 82 136 218
    FY 2008 147 151 298
    FY 2009 134 257 391
    FY 2010 180 330 510
    FY 2011 266 1,742 2,008
    FY 2012 265 2,533 2,798
    FY 2013 369 650 1,019
    FY 2014 370 193 563
    FY 2015 519 142 661
    FY 2016 698 185 883
    FY 2017 696 202 898
    FY 2018 544 199 743
    FY 2019 641 181 822
    FY 2020 706 194 900
    FY 2021 70 24 94
    Total 7,705 11,698 19,403


    https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/f...ics-report.pdf

    All of his information is freely available there I no conspiracy to cover up or misrepresent information by anyone other than by antivaxers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    The compensation paid out is for people that were genuinely medically affected by vaccines. Or where the case was settled.

    No one has ever said there weren't people that have not had adverse vaccine reactions or compilations or allergies also not all of the compensation is for the drug complications either some are the administration.
    Thanks for pointing out the distinction. I was struggling to work out why the difference in totals.
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    Covid-19: Mass testing is inaccurate and gives false sense of security, minister admits. Garbage in, Garbage out... or at the very least... Garbage in, To justify unrequired vaccination. What looks like corruption, swims like corruption and quacks like corruption. A duck.
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    In the UK. Where they have fucked up their whole response.

    And why the fuck would you quote a minister? Are you stupid? Well clearly you are. Jesus fuk christ. Actual Science please.

    Just understand that you are not good at this. This requires critical thinking.

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    Spare a thought for the unfortunate households this Xmas....

    The households where Karen’s live.....

    Instead of milk and cookies they will leave hand sanitiser and toilet paper out for Santa....

    But he won’t be here Xmas nite Jonny, he has to stay in quarantine for two weeks first...

    I can’t belueve comrade afdrn has t used this.... kids are very observant, how come Santa has freedom of travel?
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    Spare a thought for the unfortunate households this Xmas....

    The households where people have died of this imaginary disease. US have had thier worst year for mortality despite the trend going down in previous years.
    315,000 in that country from C19. How many fuckload more to come.

    If only we had DJT in charge here we could have got some more of that action.

    Oh but grumble grumble, I heard doctors are lazy and just write C19 instead of cancer, as its less keystrokes, and their database was run by dominion so they were really bedpan injuries but flipped to c19 whilst all controlled by Hillary and Satan himself.

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    No one has said what you said in last paragraph.

    However criminal elements within administrative depts may be misreporting the stats to obtain funding advantage or maybe just because they hate trump.

    What we DO know is despite this sickening death wave the people on the frontlines are laughing their tits of doing Tik Tok dances AT work FFS, that says it all. Supposed to be all this death but it’s like a comedic episode of M*A*S*H.

    How the f$&K do you behave like that if it is what they say it is.... And that the media portray that as acceptable..,

    Did we 911 responders dancing in ruins?
    Did we see Tsunami clean up dancing on beach
    Did we see CHCh quake workers dancing in street

    Next season most of the weak will have been weeded out, death rate will drop and then claim vax works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Did we 911 responders dancing in ruins?
    Did we see Tsunami clean up dancing on beach
    Did we see CHCh quake workers dancing in street
    People under immense pressure are known to resort to black humour. People who have not known such pressurees may not understand the humour. This caused problems during the Vietnam war when some journalists were placed with military units and lacked the experience to relate to what they saw and heard.

    Hospital staff in some areas have been working extra shifts in dangerous and emotionally draining circumstances for months. They have seen colleagues die of the disease knowing they themselves could be next. They are emotionally and physically exhausted, meantime in the US millions ignored the warnings and travelled to Thanksgiving gatherings ensuring there would be a new wave of cases. Now it's Christmas, rinse and repeat.

    If hospital staff want to let off steam on TikTok good luck to them.
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