Friday Night Rants?

[dangerous]

Report me then.

why?
say what ya like but i'm thinking to tell someone to "eat shit and die" is about the lowest one could go... 'some' might even say comments like that make you look like a white piece of fucking shit... or YOU ARE A PIECE OF white SHITFOR WHAT YOU SAY... i wouldn't tho you are white can't deny that... as for "I'm sure I'd lose my temper and do something I'd regret" not sure what you mean... buy caseye a lovely bundle of flowers? that be a bit over the top... or gay.

[Autech]

I'm with Drew.

The only reason they are a higher statistic in crime is we fucking put them in the situation in the first place.

Going to take generations to fix sadly and not one politician has a plan that will actually work.

As for this all lives matter bullshit, its easy to say when you're not automatically assumed guilty because of the reasons stated above.

Racism is fucked

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[dangerous]

I'm with Drew

yes... but nicely said and well thought out, even a little intelligence I might add...

however... "is we put them in the situation in the first place" who is we and how the hell do you figure that shit out... surely every individual is responsible for themselves... otherwise using your logic I could go and rape some chick, or... Drew, rob, drive drunk or whatever then turn around and blame the round eye honky... thats just fucked mate...

[F5 Dave]

For 'we' read long standing society. Read colonial forefathers.

Dont take it as an attack on you as a person, or even a white person.

He who controls land controls the ability to generate wealth. And that was well understood by the colonists instituting these new rules of engagement.

[Autech]

For 'we' read long standing society. Read colonial forefathers.

Dont take it as an attack on you as a person, or even a white person.

He who controls land controls the ability to generate wealth. And that was well understood by the colonists instituting these new rules of engagement.

Yup and I don't even hark back that far.

Doesn't mean that I haven't benefitted from its rotten fruits though. Beautiful colonialism, all in the name of Jesus and mother England of course, gotta teach these heathens the blessed word.

Took me a while to get to this point too, but having seen the amount of smart kids turning up at school with no lunch and next to no prospects, I see how my childhood was chalk and cheese to them, wasn't perfect, but at least I always had food in the cupboard and was never given the impression I couldn't succeed in life.

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[pete376403]

Many people have grown up in households that had little, descended for previous generations that lost everything*. Some of these people managed by virtue of hard work managed to rise out of their environment and become successful. Others remain in the same situation as their parents, blaming "the system" for their failures.

*an obvious example would be descendants of Scottish or Irish immigrants

[Autech]

Many people have grown up in households that had little, descended for previous generations that lost everything*. Some of these people managed by virtue of hard work managed to rise out of their environment and become successful. Others remain in the same situation as their parents, blaming "the system" for their failures.

*an obvious example would be descendants of Scottish or Irish immigrants

Completely missing the point.

As well reasoned it may be you can't ignore the fact that this discrimination has only very recently began to be rectified, all the while the world is moving at a pace that its so easy to slip of the bottom rung of the ladder into poverty, then into crime.

I always hear oh they get XYZ and we get nothing (I was amongst this group for a long time).
This isn't the case.

I will try to describe it as best as I can, I'll even use the same name.

Wiremu is born 12 December 1989
William is born 12 December 1989

They both enter a 200metre race at birth to see who will succeed.
Immediately William is advanced 10metres as when his folks die at ages 30 he'll inherit a $1.5m estate from the sale of their house, based of accumlative wealth.
He gains another 10 metres for having food in his belly every day of his childhood, allowing him to succed at school
Another 10 metres is gained for growing up in a affluent area, giving him access to a high decile school
He gains another 30metres as no "white" will ever interview him for a job, look at his skin colour and decide not to hire him because he's brown.
He only has 140m to run.

Wiremu gains nothing at birth.
His parents and grandparents own no land
Their language has been actively suppressed until just 2 years ago
He doesn't go to a good school because of the area he lives in
He has no lunch when he's there as his parents can't or choose not to afford it
There's violence at home

All of which push him back even further from William at the staring line.

Now an exceptional individual might be able to run fast enough to beat William, but lets face it the odds are against them.

This is why the extra effort is poured into minority groups, not because they're "Lazy" or not willing to work hard enough, just some need a bit of help to get them off the line, to claw in that advantage.

I've worked fucking hard for what I have, but I doubt that if I wasn't born into my circumstances if I'd be where I am today.


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[pete376403]

Completely missing the point.

As well reasoned it may be you can't ignore the fact that this discrimination has only very recently began to be rectified, all the while the world is moving at a pace that its so easy to slip of the bottom rung of the ladder into poverty, then into crime.

I always hear oh they get XYZ and we get nothing (I was amongst this group for a long time).
This isn't the case.

I will try to describe it as best as I can, I'll even use the same name.

Wiremu is born 12 December 1989
William is born 12 December 1989

They both enter a 200metre race at birth to see who will succeed.
Immediately William is advanced 10metres as when his folks die at ages 30 he'll inherit a $1.5m estate from the sale of their house, based of accumlative wealth.
He gains another 10 metres for having food in his belly every day of his childhood, allowing him to succed at school
Another 10 metres is gained for growing up in a affluent area, giving him access to a high decile school
He gains another 30metres as no "white" will ever interview him for a job, look at his skin colour and decide not to hire him because he's brown.
He only has 140m to run.

Wiremu gains nothing at birth.
His parents and grandparents own no land
Their language has been actively suppressed until just 2 years ago
He doesn't go to a good school because of the area he lives in
He has no lunch when he's there as his parents can't or choose not to afford it
There's violence at home

All of which push him back even further from William at the staring line.

Now an exceptional individual might be able to run fast enough to beat William, but lets face it the odds are against them.

This is why the extra effort is poured into minority groups, not because they're "Lazy" or not willing to work hard enough, just some need a bit of help to get them off the line, to claw in that advantage.

I've worked fucking hard for what I have, but I doubt that if I wasn't born into my circumstances if I'd be where I am today.


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Going back many generations, not just one or two. My great grandfather came from Ireland, from a dirt poor area and he arrived in NZ with virtually nothing other than a language (Gaelic) which wasn't much use. Rather than sitting around bemoaning the perfidious English that caused the situation in Ireland, he worked, provided for his family so they were better off, and so his kids had an advantage that he never had. They in turn took the education opportunities that were offered, then used that to get better jobs and so it went, right through to where I am now, so like your last line, I too have worked hard for what I have and being born into the circumstances, etc -but it wasn't always so.

[R650R]

Completely missing the point.

As well reasoned it may be you can't ignore the fact that this discrimination has only very recently began to be rectified, all the while the world is moving at a pace that its so easy to slip of the bottom rung of the ladder into poverty, then into crime.

I always hear oh they get XYZ and we get nothing (I was amongst this group for a long time).
This isn't the case.

I will try to describe it as best as I can, I'll even use the same name.

Wiremu is born 12 December 1989
William is born 12 December 1989

They both enter a 200metre race at birth to see who will succeed.
Immediately William is advanced 10metres as when his folks die at ages 30 he'll inherit a $1.5m estate from the sale of their house, based of accumlative wealth.
He gains another 10 metres for having food in his belly every day of his childhood, allowing him to succed at school
Another 10 metres is gained for growing up in a affluent area, giving him access to a high decile school
He gains another 30metres as no "white" will ever interview him for a job, look at his skin colour and decide not to hire him because he's brown.
He only has 140m to run.

Wiremu gains nothing at birth.
His parents and grandparents own no land
Their language has been actively suppressed until just 2 years ago
He doesn't go to a good school because of the area he lives in
He has no lunch when he's there as his parents can't or choose not to afford it
There's violence at home

All of which push him back even further from William at the staring line.

Now an exceptional individual might be able to run fast enough to beat William, but lets face it the odds are against them.

This is why the extra effort is poured into minority groups, not because they're "Lazy" or not willing to work hard enough, just some need a bit of help to get them off the line, to claw in that advantage.

I've worked fucking hard for what I have, but I doubt that if I wasn't born into my circumstances if I'd be where I am today.


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What a crock of wokistan shit. ThatÂ’s the sort of crap virtue signalling white solo mothers put on their Facebook pages pretending to apologise for their privilege that doesnÂ’t exist.
YouÂ’ve been watching too many American sitcoms... IÂ’d love to see real statistics on how many white people recieved your alledged 1.5$m inheritance.
I grew up in a predominantly M�ori village, went to school on bus with M�ori kids all throug out my education.
IÂ’ve been broke a couple times in life but reset and moved on. IÂ’m where I am now as a result of decisions I made including the bad ones.
You forgot to mention all the extra university scholarships only available to Wiremu and not William.
Wiremu also has a free block of land thanks to treaty settlement processes. Whether he engages properly with his ini to utilise that is another story.
Wiremu is about to have his own overfunded medical system too.
Btw thereÂ’s violence in white homes too infact it happens more than in brown homes, there was a major fluff news article about that.
There’s lots of successful M�ori at my work some from quite rough backgrounds but THEY made their OWN individual decisions that made them successful.
If you want to talk about racial disadvantage try talking to a white person trying to join police...

[R650R]

Many people have grown up in households that had little, descended for previous generations that lost everything*. Some of these people managed by virtue of hard work managed to rise out of their environment and become successful. Others remain in the same situation as their parents, blaming "the system" for their failures.

*an obvious example would be descendants of Scottish or Irish immigrants

[R650R]

Where do we live again?
You know, are we in the deep south of America? or Nicafucking agua.
Read the report below.

Bad form to bring race into it regardless of all the stats we know exist.....

What you seen ain’t nothing.... This is Jacindas new normal. What you seen happens EVERY day in my town(usually on worse scale than that), cops have their hands tied.
The real villains are the woke bought and paid for apologist media who KNOW this is happening via tip-off s and police scanner traffic but don’t want to be labelled...,,,
We have daytime gang rival fights inside our supermarkets here.... never in news though....
Great time to be a crim though.... no guns for cops, no police chases, Jackie girl wants 30% less prison population.....

[Autech]

Exactly. Wiremu gets a few things that William doesn't so that he's not starting the race 60m back.

"Though often used interchangeably, equality and equity are quite different. ... Equality simply means everyone is treated the same exact way, regardless of need or any other individual difference. Equity, on the other hand, means everyone is provided with what they need to succeed."

For us to achieve true equality in NZ there needs to be some things put in place to help those less privileged succeed. That is if we want to fix the crime and poverty issues we have in NZ.

As for the $1.5m inheritance, have you not seen the value of housing in NZ?


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[F5 Dave]

60s, 70, 80, if you weren't educated for a profession, you got a trade. Small business would take you on, train you if you worked hard you could succeed and go out on your own, heck, buy a house.

So, choice. Take on white lad, or a coloured guy?

So the coloured guys got labouring jobs at best. Plus banks wouldn't loan them money. Remember most decisions were made by middle aged white guys with no check on thier prejudice.

[mashman]

What a crock of wokistan shit. ThatÂ’s the sort of crap virtue signalling white solo mothers put on their Facebook pages pretending to apologise for their privilege that doesnÂ’t exist.
YouÂ’ve been watching too many American sitcoms... IÂ’d love to see real statistics on how many white people recieved your alledged 1.5$m inheritance.
I grew up in a predominantly M�ori village, went to school on bus with M�ori kids all throug out my education.
IÂ’ve been broke a couple times in life but reset and moved on. IÂ’m where I am now as a result of decisions I made including the bad ones.
You forgot to mention all the extra university scholarships only available to Wiremu and not William.
Wiremu also has a free block of land thanks to treaty settlement processes. Whether he engages properly with his ini to utilise that is another story.
Wiremu is about to have his own overfunded medical system too.
Btw thereÂ’s violence in white homes too infact it happens more than in brown homes, there was a major fluff news article about that.
There’s lots of successful M�ori at my work some from quite rough backgrounds but THEY made their OWN individual decisions that made them successful.
If you want to talk about racial disadvantage try talking to a white person trying to join police...

WTF. He is acknowledging why it is now hard for "a white person trying to join police" you myopic prat. You know, once upon a not so long ago 'systemic racism'. Response: Quotas to unbalance the racist shit. Wokistan? Nah, just dealing with a reality that was prolific and that is meant to becoming less so, coz quotas. There but for the grace of God seems to go He. He looks like he has the ability to walk in the shoes of another, showing compassion for the circumstances of others despite not being affected by their plight. Wokistan? Muthafucka seems way too educated to have lived there.

[R650R]

For us to achieve true equality in NZ there needs to be some things put in place to help those less privileged succeed. That is if we want to fix the crime and poverty issues we have in NZ.

As for the $1.5m inheritance, have you not seen the value of housing in NZ?


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Sorry but Wiremu gets about a 600m head start on a 100m sprint. Or in cash terms well over $50,000 not including all the race based assistance programs.

M�ori own 52.5 BILLION dollars of land in NZ at the cheap rural rate of 35,000 a hectare and have had nearly 4 billion in cash settlements.
Then there’s the various M�ori owner fishing and forestry enterprises using the nasty white mans capitalist business model.....

Thanks for not supplying the imaginary data how how many white people actually got a significant inheritance. One side of my family grew up and lived in state houses and rentals so zero inheritance there. The other side owned modest house westÂ’s coast, by time medical bills/rest home fees and all the other bits were paid out my share was $1000 ish.
Not every one out there bought property at right time or lived drama free lives. ItÂ’s totally racist so say all whites live a happily ever after rich life when the relatives die.
A small segment of nz across all races has done well through property by PERSONAL decisions made at RIGHT time....