Jacinda

[Laava]

Cool, getting used to hearing this type of gish galloping nonsense!
So Epstein invested in a pharmaceutical company after WW2? Classic!
What year was he born again? The whole plot has so many holes you could drain spaghetti.

[pete376403]

That program on TV1 last night (Web of Chaos) was quite enlightening and horrifying in equal measure

[husaberg]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...na/5715707002/

I cant believe that mashy, tdl and r650r are not all over this....
there's clearly a cover up lol

[R650R]

That program on TV1 last night (Web of Chaos) was quite enlightening and horrifying in equal measure

Is that the one featuring a journalist is an associated respondent of a court ordered protection order????

Haven’t watched it and prob won’t because it’s an obvious sequel to fire and fury and funded by the state... and oh such convenient timing when hate speech law in news again...

A predicted synopsis at a guess - lots of people are making their own minds up about what is happening in the world and nz because the state no longer has a stranglehold on what people are reading. No doubt a small segment develope extreme views and idealologies and the potential exists for rise of domestic terrorists or extremists. 100% fear porn.

The reality is those with the time and mental deficiency to become a “risk” to society prob are incapable of actually doing anything. Kiwis really are too laidback to care about anything at either end of spectrum.

Just remember this is happening at a time when the current govt is such a spectacular failing in delivering its promises and leaving economy a total train wreck. Let’s not forget Helen Clark’s govt banned satire of govt officials this is just next level.

[Berries]

That program on TV1 last night (The Chase) was quite enlightening and horrifying in equal measure

I do like Jenny the Vixen though.

[TheDemonLord]

Sean Plunket is desperately seeking relevance - and failing. Misinformation is probably alongside global warming as one of the major problems the world faces today. Anybody who claims global warming isn't a problem actually proves that statement correct. Misinformation, in the US alone, is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.

There's many reasons to call into question Global Warming - whether it's from the track history of disastrous climate predictions, the demands being made on the populace to 'fix' it, to the solutions being proposed (Wind, Solar, Electric cars) not being workable in the real world without massive disruption to Human life.

And when you see the demands of those who raise it as an issue and the utter incoherence of them, you realise that the Activist movement that drives it is Anti-Human and a Death Cult (Just like the Christchurch Shooter, remember?)

As the phrase goes "You are the Carbon they seek to eliminate".

I would also call into question the source for 'Misinformation is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths' - I'm assuming you mean Covid - in which case, I'd say that Age, Obesity, Smoking and Diabetes have a far greater impact than 'Misinformation' - even if I accept the premise of that statement (which I don't).

We have flat earthers, anti vaxxers, anti maskers, anti mandaters. Then there's the people who think Trump was sent by God, a three times married, multiple philanderer, alleged (and admitted) sexual assaulter. There are pedophile cabals. JFK Jr is alive, Hillary Clinton is dead. Biden was killed in Guantanamo and the current "president" is a body double. They've been smoking some heavy shit.

Don't laugh, we've got a couple here.

It's interesting the ones you lump together - because there's at least to in there (Anti Mask and Anti Mandate) where time is being very kind to those who pointed out that they were Immoral and that the scientific basis was nowhere near secure enough to justify what was being asked.

[R650R]

Misinformation... note how politicians and media love this term. They love it because they don’t have to call someone a liar (because then you have to provide inconvenient evidence to back up that call). They love it because they don’t have to say someone’s statement is wrong or false for the most part (because yes they do get to occasionally call out some stuff as false or wrong).

What misinformation means is information that doesn’t fit the current narrative or script. Say for example you raise a valid scientific point like suns solar cycles having an influence on climate. Because you now challenge the narrative that CO2 is sole driver of climate change you will be labelled as spreading disinformation.

In proper English grammar you are supposed to use the simplest word to describe something. So we should be talking lies, false or wrong. The multi syllable disinformation word with its five syllables is used as an attention grabber that can cover many things at once. As such being open to interpretation it will be the word of choice in new legislation that will prevent us mere peasants from disagreeing with anything that comes out of media or govt.

Btw seeing as we are in a climate tangent, can anyone explain how we will grow enough food in lowered CO2 levels in our meat free vegan future??? Oh don’t worry I forgot we will be eating protein made from crushed insects.

[mashman]

Jacinda is doing what she's told. But at least you're conforming and going after her instead of addressing the real problems, which is a real relief for the parties and the experts that generate policy for the spokesperson, Jacinda, to deliver.

Btw seeing as we are in a climate tangent, can anyone explain how we will grow enough food in lowered CO2 levels in our meat free vegan future??? Oh don’t worry I forgot we will be eating protein made from crushed insects.

Plantlife thrived before humans dirtied everything. How food thrived when coast to coast forests pumped out oxygen and sucked the co2 away from everything else is a real mystery

[Laava]

I do like Jenny the Vixen though.

She would giggle and jiggle and wriggle all night long!

[pritch]

Just remember this is happening at a time when the current govt is such a spectacular failing in delivering its promises and leaving economy a total train wreck.

Speaking of misinformation...

The New Zealand economy is in better shape than many. I listened to Hosking banging on about 7.2% inflation. Most western countries would love to have 7.2% inflation.

Our debt to GDP is better than most and waaaay better than some.

All the carping and whinging is bollocks. Or you could call it misinformation if you want to be polite.

What misinformation means is information that doesn’t fit the current narrative or script.

It'd be better if that was true but it's not. People are just making up outrageous crap and the simple minded believe it. When you watch some of the interviews with Trump supporters, the shit they believe is just mind boggling. No connection to reality at all.

A recent example was the prediction, believed by many, that on October the tenth the 5G towers would activate the COVID vaccines and turn everybody who had been vaccinated into zombies. When the predicted events don't happen, it doesn't bother them, they just adopt another one.

A sinister aspect is that these people, having self selected as particularly gullible, are then 'captured' by people with a different agenda. More than most, you really should watch Web of Chaos.

[george formby]

Speaking of misinformation...

The New Zealand economy is in better shape than many. I listened to Hosking banging on about 7.2% inflation. Most western countries would love to have 7.2% inflation.

Our debt to GDP is better than most and waaaay better than some.

All the carping and whinging is bollocks. Or you could call it misinformation if you want to be polite.
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Speaking to friends and family in Europe and the UK recently really highlights your point.

Poor buggers are in a state of disbelief at how fast everything is turning to crap. Admittedly they do have Brexit and the Ukraine making a big negative impact on top of the world economy pooping it's pants.

A mate was carping and whinging about the state of NZ affairs yesterday, getting quite vehement in his dislike of the current gummint. He failed to see the irony in his statements as he was loading his new 7mtr fishing boat with gear and hitching it to his new Ford Ranga..

[Grumph]

To continue this theme. i note that distressed auctions are starting in aussie. Where homeowners can't afford their mortgages.

those who are pointing to aussie as being better off should get better informed.

[Laava]

Speaking of misinformation...

The New Zealand economy is in better shape than many. I listened to Hosking banging on about 7.2% inflation. Most western countries would love to have 7.2% inflation.

Our debt to GDP is better than most and waaaay better than some.

All the carping and whinging is bollocks. Or you could call it misinformation if you want to be polite.






It'd be better if that was true but it's not. People are just making up outrageous crap and the simple minded believe it. When you watch some of the interviews with Trump supporters, the shit they believe is just mind boggling. No connection to reality at all.

A recent example was the prediction, believed by many, that on October the tenth the 5G towers would activate the COVID vaccines and turn everybody who had been vaccinated into zombies. When the predicted events don't happen, it doesn't bother them, they just adopt another one.

A sinister aspect is that these people, having self selected as particularly gullible, are then 'captured' by people with a different agenda. More than most, you really should watch Web of Chaos.

It is exactly the same as a religious cult. Exactly!
Also to the point where if you enter a discussion with a conspiracy fan, trumper or 5G opponent for example, anything you say that does not fit their brainwashed narrative just reinforces that they are right. As, in their mind, if you are trying to change their view, then they must be dangerously close to the truth for you to be bothering. None so blind as those who will not see, as the saying goes.

[Berries]

To continue this theme. i note that distressed auctions are starting in aussie. Where homeowners can't afford their mortgages.

those who are pointing to aussie as being better off should get better informed.

Time to score that flat in Sydney at a knock down rate.

[george formby]

Time to score that flat in Sydney at a knock down rate.

You've kinda hit on the solution, their.

Those who are cashed up buy in times like these, slowly kick starting the upward economic trend again.

I remember reading how this happened after teh great crash of 2008, or so.