MotoGP 2025

[BMWST?]

I wonder what the factor is that all the Ducatis were struggling. Too cold? Have they changed something for MM lately .He has a new chassis doesnt he? Zarco is amazing .He seems so laid back that even his talk about maybe winning is sorta whimsical

[iYRe]

I wonder what the factor is that all the Ducatis were struggling. Too cold? Have they changed something for MM lately .He has a new chassis doesnt he? Zarco is amazing .He seems so laid back that even his talk about maybe winning is sorta whimsical

He said he had a hard time finding the feeling here at silverstone. He also said that if you try 3-4 setups its not the bike, its the rider, and so he said "I have to change my style, because it is me, not the bike"

"Today we are super lucky. I did a mistake and for that reason I am angry. It is true we finish third, it is true that we finish ahead of our main competitor for the championship but I am angry with myself. Because I did a mistake on turn eleven. I don know why. On the first lap I was super calm, in the next lap I say I will take more risk but when I try to take more risk arrive a massive wind and push me out and I lost the front. So yeah, I was super lucky with the red flag and the restart of the race gave me another opportunity but it's a another mistake. We finish third, but it is our worst Sunday so I am happy with the result. But not happy with the feeling." - Marc Marquez (British GP 2025 - Full Distance Race)

[sugilite:Me]

Wow, fantastic race, even if it was a soul destroyer for Quatararo. I'm confident he would of had that race win in the bag otherwise.
Clearly with silverstone coming up with 10 different winners over the last decade, the track has unique challenges that in this case, bamboozled the ducatis. I'm sure normal ducati cup will resume for the next race.
Having said that, it sure was good to see all the other brands having a field day - well except for KTM.
And as for poor old Pecco, MM has destroyed this guys confidence. I read heaps of reports saying this would happen, and I thought naaaah, but here we are!


And as mentioned above, Zarco is being awesome week in week out. He is 5th overall in the championship, with the next honda being waaaay down in 13th (Marini).
Well done to Bezzecchi for the race win. Not sure we see another from him this year, but he took his chance brilliantly

[iYRe]

You nailed it..
The Marquez brothers surely got lucky. ZArco was doing stuff on that bike... it was all over the place. Amazing really

[F5 Dave]

How much advantage are the shape shifters giving?

If for example Fabio, managed his desperate attempt to unlock his frozen rear, and then carried on not daring to engage it again; Would he certainly have been reeled in by Bez et all?

[iYRe]

How much advantage are the shape shifters giving?

If for example Fabio, managed his desperate attempt to unlock his frozen rear, and then carried on not daring to engage it again; Would he certainly have been reeled in by Bez et all?

From what I understad, alot. A few hundreds of a sec every lap, I think I heard on one of the pod casts

[F5 Dave]

Intending to ask as Oxley Bom are doing a question thing on patreon for thier next cast.

He was likely to retain his lead with a faster Bez behind him possibly responding if he started catching too fast vs carefully managing his tyres vs gap he could afford to lose several tenths per lap. But with the device broken (but in the up position) would that have changed the outcome from win, to 2nd, or further back?

[diesel pig]

[QUOTE=sugilite;1131236951]And as for poor old Pecco, MM has destroyed this guys confidence. I read heaps of reports saying this would happen, and I thought naaaah, but here we are!
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I have not read those reports myself. Are they saying MM is doing it on purpose? or MM being MM is doing it?

[iYRe]

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And as for poor old Pecco, MM has destroyed this guys confidence. I read heaps of reports saying this would happen, and I thought naaaah, but here we are!
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I have not read those reports myself. Are they saying MM is doing on purpose? or MM being MM is doing it?

I think it is MM's ability to ride around problems, where Pecco needs the bike to be how he wants it.

If the bike was performing like it should I think Pecco would think he can still beat MM, but he cant ride it like MM can. Interestingly MM was having the same feeling issue Pecco was, so there is definitely some issue.

[F5 Dave]

If the 24.9 is the same frame and engine (they rejected the 25 enginefor example), surely it isn't hard to make it the same?

Must be more complicated. What would happen if Pecco and Alex Swapped Dooclatteries?

[iYRe]

If the 24.9 is the same frame and engine (they rejected the 25 enginefor example), surely it isn't hard to make it the same?

Must be more complicated. What would happen if Pecco and Alex Swapped Dooclatteries?

Pecco would be doing the same as Alex... they said Alex is going as fast as Pecco last year

[SaferRides]

If the 24.9 is the same frame and engine (they rejected the 25 enginefor example), surely it isn't hard to make it the same?

Must be more complicated. What would happen if Pecco and Alex Swapped Dooclatteries?

It is the engine that's the issue. Factories without concessions have to homologate a certain number of engines per rider for the season. The GP25 engine mounts are different to the GP24, so Ducati cannot use a GP24 chassis for Digia, Marc or Pecco.

It seems that Marc has a similar problem with front end feel to Pecco, but can ride around it to some extent but not always. If he keeps crashing on Sundays at this rate, it could be an interesting season.

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[F5 Dave]

Um. Didn't they reject the 25 engine in testing and keep with the old engine? That was the palaver as it is locked in for two years now.
24.9 was face saving as it was more like 24.3. At least explained back then. What is the truth I wonder?

[iYRe]

Pretty cool interview with the Marquez brothers:

[SaferRides]

Um. Didn't they reject the 25 engine in testing and keep with the old engine? That was the palaver as it is locked in for two years now.
24.9 was face saving as it was more like 24.3. At least explained back then. What is the truth I wonder?

Not completely, it was the engine braking that the riders did not like. More info here: https://www.the-race.com/motogp/the-...e-new-ducatis/

I'm sure Ducati have made serious efforts to improve the GP25 during the season, but after 7 races the 24 still appears faster. The Motorland race could be really interesting.

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