MotoGP 2025

[iYRe]

Thought you guys might be interested in the slowmo evaluation of the Alex M crash

If the link works


https://www.facebook.com/reel/2090114691478667

Link worked.. although it was hard to tell what hit the lever, the back of the seat or the aero kit? Either way, not much you can do about that.

Well that race was just an example of experience and skill. MM asked his crew for some specific set up that allowed him to defend in the right handers - braking and something else I heard. He also was going to ride the old aero but after his crash had to ride the new aero - and basically said "i'd prefer the old one but i'll just make this work".
He was having to ride at alien levels though, and it didnt look comfortable.

[sugilite:Me]

Well that race was just an example of experience and skill. MM asked his crew for some specific set up that allowed him to defend in the right handers - braking and something else I heard. He also was going to ride the old aero but after his crash had to ride the new aero - and basically said "i'd prefer the old one but i'll just make this work".
He was having to ride at alien levels though, and it didnt look comfortable.

Absolutely spot on!
That is one of the main things that separates the true aliens from the wannabes - their gifts allow them to ride around problems with the bike.

[F5 Dave]

Link didn't work for me. I had thought I'd seen smoke from the rear tyre then from the front which is uncommon. I'd assumed that as they twisted to the right as Pedro came past in relative movement it had lifted the rear of Alex's bike which spun up and then unweighted the front as the bikes bumpacared past, at the point any touch on the lever locked a light front wheel.
The data traces would tell the story.

[F5 Dave]

Surprised no one mentioned this in practice.

https://www.tiktok.com/@motogp/video...15597206457622

Coolest dirt tracking on tarmac I've ever seen.

[iYRe]

Link didn't work for me. I had thought I'd seen smoke from the rear tyre then from the front which is uncommon. I'd assumed that as they twisted to the right as Pedro came past in relative movement it had lifted the rear of Alex's bike which spun up and then unweighted the front as the bikes bumpacared past, at the point any touch on the lever locked a light front wheel.
The data traces would tell the story.

In the video you can see when they go to the right, the rear of acosta's bike comes up under alex's right clipon, and there is a puff of smoke off the front wheel

Both guys are on one wheel momentarily before

[Reckless]

I don't run them on the race bike but I thought the brake lever guard was supposed to stop exactly what happened in this crash.
Screen grab off the vid

[iYRe]

Here is another YT short which covers MM's rise to success and then injury, recovery, and to the end of the Gresini time. 3 Mins - its quite interesting to remember all he has been through:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vQvl5iRf_OM

[Reckless]

Isnt this getting tiresome I can understand Aprilia's position. Do contracts have to be so tight personal integrity can't be accounted for, after all Martin hasn't really even tried the bike out as yet.
I am also thinking he could have been back on it by now MM would never have been off a GP bike for so long.

https://www.motogpnews.com/2025/07/0...ute-continues/

Not a good look for Martin or Dorna if I was Honda I'd be staying away from him.

What say you?

[iYRe]

I saw a comment by someone on it today, that all bets are off in 2027, and honda might be the manufacturer to be with then, they seemed to think that this is why he is holding off. He's fast, but he's not as fast as Marc or Alex on a ducati - but on an 850 in 2027 who knows?

It seemed sensible when they explained it... it's here - their explanation is better thab my recounting of it:
https://youtube.com/shorts/7xlE_1b4M...1eIZ7BGFTffxnw

[BMWST?]

Link didn't work for me. I had thought I'd seen smoke from the rear tyre then from the front which is uncommon. I'd assumed that as they twisted to the right as Pedro came past in relative movement it had lifted the rear of Alex's bike which spun up and then unweighted the front as the bikes bumpacared past, at the point any touch on the lever locked a light front wheel.
The data traces would tell the story.

I recall someone said(gresini guy) the data showed pressure in the front brake .I think the front brake guard prtoects more from the front

[sugilite:Me]

Initially, I was pretty shitty towards Martin when this story broke. But then when it came out that Aprillia did not want to extend the clause to let Martin get a feel for the bike, I could start to see why he wanted to leave. The bike is obviously pretty bloody good and as Martin is generally faster than bezz, it is not inconceivable that he could win on the bike as it stands now.
Many were hard on Ducati for letting Martin go over MM, but Ducati have been proven correct in spectacular fashion.

As fast as Martin was, he is now an unknown force as it is not clear about the long term effect of these injuries will be on Martin. Combine that with his tendencies to make rash decisions - if I were Honda, I would wait to see how Martin goes on his return, if he actually does return this year!

[SaferRides]

A friend of mine, a long time F1 fan, is somewhat more pessimistic than you. He thinks Lawson will lose his seat.

A lot can change over a race weekend. Liam has been treated really badly by Red Bull, or Christian Horner to be more precise, who clearly didn't want him in the factory team. He is a good driver and can hopefully get some more decent finishes this year.

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[F5 Dave]

And back to motorcycles. . . It is genuinely a shame that Martin has not been available to calibrate 'prilla to what it can really do in the hands of the world champion. Directly off the best bike onto the main rival, he should have been able to help them greatly with his data and comparisons.

Also maybe some direction and motivation for a team and project that seems so up and down.
Is the bike really only good at some tracks?, or is that the sporadic riders they have had are only good at those tracks?

To want to jump to Honda because early they looked to be doing better is probably more down to more than a little luck, or rather: the wilie and experienced Zarco performing miracles at Lemans and Silverstone.

[iYRe]

latest news is that Dorna has said the contract for Martin stands, apparently.

[sugilite:Me]

Now the Liberty Media proposal to buy MotoGP is approved, it does make me a bit nervous. On the surface it should be good as that company has done wonders for the borefest that is F1. However, I still remember the dark days when Nascar (DMG) owned the American AMA Motorcycle Racing series and absolutely ran it into the ground. Looking at the lack of American riders in MotoGP I would say the repercussions of the Nascar disaster is still taking a toll even though MotoAmerica purchased the rights more than 11 years ago. I know this is a more nuanced subject than what I have covered here - but it still makes me a bit nervous. I just hope Liberty Media see MotoGP as a money earner in it's own right - rather than a threat to F1 that needs to be kneecapped.