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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    A study funded by BioNTech and Pfizer.
    That's who usually pays for drug/vaccine trials. The drug company, and then all the Smart People at CDC who RFK has just fired check it's been done properly.

    Do you really have no idea how this shit works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    That's who usually pays for drug/vaccine trials.
    That's called a marketing strategy.

    Like this. https://nz.pinterest.com/pin/ford-19...7030580882853/

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    Not just funded. 100% controlled and manipulated

    Quote Originally Posted by saferrides View Post
    that's who usually pays for drug/vaccine trials. The drug company, and then all the smart people at cdc who rfk has just fired check it's been done properly.

    Do you really have no idea how this shit works?

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    What happens when the fox guards the hen house?

    FDA Exploring Independent Evaluation For DNA Contamination In COVID-19 Vaccines

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fda-exploring-independent-evaluation-dna-contamination-covid-19-vaccines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    That's called a marketing strategy.

    Like this. https://nz.pinterest.com/pin/ford-19...7030580882853/
    Yes Karen without first testing the drugs for safety and efficacy you can't market them.
    Its pretty simple really, much like your pathetic excuses and ill-informed opinions are to destroy.
    Tell us who should fund the drug trials if not the companies trying to sell them or are they like all the other stuff you claim just made up shit you cant produce any evidence to substantiate.

    Like the time you claimed farmers send 100kg plus rodeo calves to the works when the works don't accept cattle this size.
    Or that time you claimed there were numerous alternatives to 1080 on the vast inaccessible areas of NZ, yet you couldn't name a single one.
    Or that time you claimed some animals were poisoned on their own property by 1080, when by the owner's own admission, they had wandered into a DOC area.
    Or that time you posted an engine (the Geet)that was a well-known fraud, that was supposed to run on coffee or water and you refused to admit it was a made-up piece of shit. You even called him a modern-day Nikola Tesla when in truth, he said he got the technology from an angel named Mrs Cunningham. Yet He invented nothing other than reusing a new way to scam the money of idiots.
    Or that time you claimed there were no gas chambers at in German concentration camps, when even the two convicted fraudsters you quoted as being proof there were none, admitted freely themselves that it was obvious there were gas chambers.
    Or that time you kept claiming ad nauseam, the WTC buildings fell at free-fall speed, when they clearly did not
    Or that time you claimed they collapsed into their own footprints when they clearly did not.
    Or that time when you quoted state trooper Lyle Szupink as saying something, he clearly did not, about United Airlines Flight 93.
    Or that time you claimed over and over that an engine was found to be a distance away from the crash site when it was in fact, found less than a third of that distance.
    Or that time you kept claiming passports, which were never found intact after a high-speed impact like 911, when in fact they commonly are.
    Or that time you claimed the UFA investigation was independent, full or transparent, when it was clearly none of these three.
    Or those times you repeatedly make and pass on false claims about vaccines and vaccine safety, often implying you know more than genuine medical experts, when you have no medical training at all.
    Or that time you claimed it was uncommon for bikes to have footpegs mounted to the swingarm when tens, if not 100's of millions of bikes were made in over 120 models with this exact setup.



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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46 View Post
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    It's actually not funny, the consequences for vaccine development could be quite serious.

    Just so you can more of a laugh, the vaccine trials are carried out by third parties based in many different countries, including NZ. They don't know which shots are the vaccine or the placebo and the drug companies don't find out who participated. Normally the trials are carried out in stages, with an increasing number in each stage once it is established that any side effects are minor, or stopped if there is a serious problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    It's actually not funny, the consequences for vaccine development could be quite serious.

    Just so you can more of a laugh, the vaccine trials are carried out by third parties based in many different countries, including NZ. They don't know which shots are the vaccine or the placebo and the drug companies don't find out who participated. Normally the trials are carried out in stages, with an increasing number in each stage once it is established that any side effects are minor, or stopped if there is a serious problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    It's actually not funny, the consequences for vaccine development could be quite serious.

    Just so you can more of a laugh, the vaccine trials are carried out by third parties based in many different countries, including NZ. They don't know which shots are the vaccine or the placebo and the drug companies don't find out who participated. Normally the trials are carried out in stages, with an increasing number in each stage once it is established that any side effects are minor, or stopped if there is a serious problem.
    Sounds like you know jack shit about vaccine trials.

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    As the research suggests, having COVID-19 is potentially associated with a higher risk of cancer and other ailments

    Similar to other viruses, such as human papillomavirus and Epstein–Barr virus, SARS-CoV-2 shows an oncogenic potential, which has been hypothetically proposed based on its mechanisms of action, including the renin–angiotensin–aldosterone system, viral mutagenicity, and inflammatory cascade Given the shared structures, such as the spike protein in COVID-19 vaccines, we further hypothesized that COVID-19 vaccines might potentially be associated with cancer risks; however, real-world data are insufficient

    Does that mean all the crap about covid being no worse than the flu that all the anti-vax sites posted and all the people that posted the same on here was utter crap?
    Are you in agreement now that exposure to the COVID-19 virus carries an increased risk of cancer?
    Because that is a huge step forward for an analvaxer like you.

    Unlike classical oncogenic viruses, which transform cells through viral oncogenes or by activating host oncogenes, SARS-CoV-2 appears to promote tumorigenesis by inhibiting tumor suppressor genes and pathways while activating survival, proliferation, and inflammation-associated signaling cascades. Bioinformatic analyses and experimental studies have identified numerous interactions between SARS-CoV-2 proteins and cellular components involved in cancer-related processes. This review explores the intricate relationship between SARS-CoV-2 infection and cancer, focusing on the regulation of key hallmarks driving initiation, promotion and progression of cancer by viral proteins. By elucidating the underlying mechanisms driving cellular transformation, the potential of SARS-CoV-2 as an oncovirus is highlighted. Comprehending these interplays is essential to enhance our understanding of COVID-19 and cancer biology and further formulating strategies to alleviate SARS-CoV-2 influence on cancer consequences.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39327555/



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    So, would it be irresponsible to go onto antivax forums and convince them they should be AntiAntibiotics? I mean that's 2x the Anti. Gotta be badderer. Plus Science can't be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    So, would it be irresponsible to go onto antivax forums and convince them they should be AntiAntibiotics? I mean that's 2x the Anti. Gotta be badderer. Plus Science can't be trusted.

    Sigh. Time to unsubscribe again.
    Well Dave
    Yes, antibiotic use can be linked to an increased risk of some cancers, particularly colon cancer and certain other types like lung, pancreatic, and prostate cancer.


    Use of Antibiotics and Risk of Cancer: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Observational Studies
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6721461/



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    ANTI-Antibiotics??

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/wellbeing/36...ts-chase-clues

    “Genes haven’t changed - they are the same as they were. This is what we call a cohort effect, a generational shift, which implies an environmental impact. Something in the environment that we're not seeing as bad is probably triggering this,”
    Don't anyone go looking at the elephant in the room though.

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