Sack Benson-Pope

**oldrider** · 24th July 2007, 13:16

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

I am pretty certain I have not seriously complained about the Govt etc..........

We understand,...... you are British after all!..

(lol)

**Grahameeboy** · 24th July 2007, 13:19

Originally Posted by oldrider

We understand,...... you are British after all!..

(lol)

No I am "Me" Sir...........which is even more

**Toaster** · 24th July 2007, 13:30

Just sack the whole Labour Government.

**MSTRS:Me** · 24th July 2007, 13:55

Originally Posted by Toaster

Just sack the whole Labour Government.

So shooting is too good for them, huh?

**Hitcher** · 24th July 2007, 13:58

Originally Posted by MSTRS

So shooting is too good for them, huh?

Have you seen the cost of ammunition recently?

**Toaster** · 24th July 2007, 14:05

Originally Posted by MSTRS

So shooting is too good for them, huh?

mmmm shooting.... (drool)

**Mr Merde** · 24th July 2007, 14:08

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Have you seen the cost of ammunition recently?

500 rnds .22 ammo approx $50

120 MP's salaries approx $15 million

Good ROI

**SPman** · 24th July 2007, 14:21

The whole sorry saga is symbolic of the governments (both Labour and National), increasing meddling in the Public Service and their seeming determination to remove Public Service neutrality. This is a very worrying trend.

Just sack the whole Labour Government.

They are due for it - third term arrogance has become rife, but, what bunch of self serving scrotes are you going to replace them with - Key and his bunch of monied cronies, who are waiting for the chance to snap up any remaining public companies and divvy them up amongst themselves again, whilst creating a pool of labour to drive down wages ( ie - unemployment ) and return us to the nasty 90's!?

500 rnds .22 ammo approx $50

120 MP's salaries approx $15 million

Hmmm $12 to solve the problem.......tempting!

**avgas** · 24th July 2007, 14:25

Sack the gubberment - the world will run fine and cheaper without em

**Bullitt** · 24th July 2007, 18:09

I was a former student of Benson-Pope many years ago. I didnt really like German though so he didnt teach me for very long.

Theres two issues here, that the public service should be neutral and that he lied about it. Everyone keeps going on about how he should be sacked for lying, when thats all most politicians have ever done, he just keeps getting caught.

Either the last election or the one before it (maybe both?) Benson-Popes Dunedin South electorate had the largest majority of any seat in the country. Though this is more to do with it being a labour seat than a BP seat admitedly.

Im not a labour supporter so Im quite happy for him to stay

**riffer** · 24th July 2007, 18:47

Some interesting points made in the Dominion Post recently:

Tracy Watkins:
The reason Ms Setchell's job was deemed so sensitive was that Prime Minister Helen Clark had placed carbon neutrality at the forefront of Labour's political agenda. Ministry staff have been told to rack their brains for bold plans which are likely to form the centrepiece of Labour's election campaign... Where once it was accepted that the public service endured regardless of the government of the day, it now appears that, for certain jobs at least, your CV is immaterial if you don't also hold the favour of the current administration. That raises the spectre of a US-style turnover at the top of a politically appointed civil service when there is a change of administration. The problem for New Zealand is that skilled bureaucrats are in short supply. There is no alternative workforce biding its time in think tanks and academia till there is a change of face at the top.

Richard Long:
This issue arose, I suspect, partly because of Labour's traditional paranoia about the public service, and secondly because the Government has lost reality over appointments. Labour has become so used to staffing ministerial offices (and departments where they can) with their own acolytes that they have, possibly irreparably, damaged the concept of the professional ministerial advisory corps... Ministerial press secretaries, who, with an eye on the political polls, have been fleeing the Beehive for more secure roles in departments and government agencies, should also be concerned about this. An incoming National government would be justified, under this precedent, in reviewing their warrants, wherever they are in the public service, because they have worked for Labour ministers... The same will apply to other ministerial staffers, though National is aware there is a corps of talented, experienced, Beehive bureaucrats who are capable of working under either administration. It would be short-sighted lunacy to lose their institutional knowledge.

I totally agree with you here Brett and with a lot of what the two quoted journos have written. Where next? Do we get an incoming administration deciding which public servants work for the govt? Do we also have government departments working as de-facto policy think-tanks for political parties?

And will we get to the point where reporters or cartoonists are thrown out of press conferences because the Prime Minister doesn't agree with their opinion?

Nah - that would never happen would it?

**jafar** · 24th July 2007, 20:11

Benson-pope & Philip Fields should both be stood up against the wall & shot with a very large ball of their own

. Both have been caught out bullshitting !

The only reason they have not been is because Aunty Helens fragile gibberment would not have the numbers in the house for confidence & supply & that would lead to an early election which Labour would most likely lose.

Helen your time is well & truly UP & I hope you get the

you deserve in the polls.

**ynot slow** · 24th July 2007, 20:47

Uncle Helen won't have the numbers to govern if she sacks all the idiots,hell look at Tamahere,Samuels,Philip-Field,they are all gone.

Benson-Pope looks light your typical useless teacher,should try some decent fertiliser on his lip or shave it off,fuck uncle Hels has more hair on her/his lip.

**Delerium** · 25th July 2007, 16:34

The absolute contempt shown for tax payers is disgusting. Guess what, YOU work for ME, not the other damn way around. YOU should be making decisions on what I want, not what you want to puch because of personal agenda and that you think you how to run my life better than me!