Pakeha

[jrandom]

White people are just a food source.

Have you read Michael King's The Penguin History of New Zealand?

[MSTRS:Me]

Have you read Michael King's The Penguin History of New Zealand?

In a word...No. Should I?

[Ocean1]

Personally I don't find it offensive in the normal context it's used.

Buy: As a matter of interest how many other nations have a word ensconced in legislation which means "foreigners" (as opposed to a name refering to a specific cultural group). And how many have public service policies which require women to sit at the back of certain specifically required events, even those responsible for managing them?

[jrandom]

Just because I have strong beliefs and values does not mean that I will push them on to my students.

Mmm, good. I shouldn't have implied that you might do so.

What they believe should not be criticized.

Still, beliefs demand examination.

I, for instance, may believe that the moon is made of cheese and that people with a high melanin content in their skins are intellectually inferior, but it could be reliably inferred from the fact of me believing those things that I am an idiot.

[Big Dave]

I would've been snarly if applicable - now I wouldn't.

But after hearing Maori explanations as to how Milford Sound was created and how Mt Manganui got where it is - I wouldn't be suprised if it means 'Those chaps that play Rugby'.

[MSTRS:Me]

Thing that I object to is having to be described ethnically. Aren't we all just New Zealanders of equal standing?

[ManDownUnder]

Ngati Honky, represent!

Yeah I'm from The 'naki... Ngati Whitefulla

[Big Dave]

Still, beliefs demand examination.

I, for instance, may believe that the moon is made of cheese and that people with a high melanin content in their skins are intellectually inferior, but it could be reliably inferred from the fact of me believing those things that I am an idiot.

I believe I'll have another drink.

[BuFfY]

Mmm, good. I shouldn't have implied that you might do so.


Still, beliefs demand examination.

I, for instance, may believe that the moon is made of cheese and that people with a high melanin content in their skins are intellectually inferior, but it could be reliably inferred from the fact of me believing those things that I am an idiot.

No, you shouldn't have

Yes, beliefs should be examined, or critiqued, not criticized

[Grub]

I don't like being called a pakeha. In context, it used to be used by Maori in a derogatory way.

[jrandom]

In a word...No. Should I?

Yup. It's illuminating.

Thing that I object to is having to be described ethnically. Aren't we all just New Zealanders of equal standing?

The Pakeha and Maori subcultures are comprised of people who look different and think differently about many things. It's silly to pretend otherwise. Homogeneity is boring.

[jrandom]

Yes, beliefs should be examined, or critiqued, not criticized

This is where we differ. I am always ready to tell the Emperor that he has no clothes.

[Karma]

I don't find it derogatory I suppose, but I won't let it be used to describe me. Same as I wouldn't be decribed as European back in the UK.

Ask me what I am and I'll proudly tell you I'm English, nothing else comes close.

[jrandom]

I believe I'll have another drink.

Ngati Ocker...

[BuFfY]

This is where we differ. I am always ready to tell the Emperor that he has no clothes.

But to criticize is to imply the negatives, yet to critique you look at it from all angles but still state the facts.
I guess some of us just prefer to look at some things from a postive angle, rather than always from above