45 hours to find suspected murder victim. At home.

[avgas]

What ticks me off is the fact this guy was in and out of court like a yoyo. I hope they find the scumbag rip his mana to shreds.
Still pissed me off that there isnt an interpol on this guy - nearly a week from the whole incident. What did the aussie's think - he would get halfway to USA and remember that he left something in Aus? turn round come back and say sorry.......never mind the fact that he only just recently had a NZ court case and was expected to attend another.
Anyone know where his samurai sword went to? as i cant imagine it went on the plane with him. I imagine its going to where he is (hint hint interpol).
RED TAPE SUCKS SHIT

[Colapop]

Damn straight! WE are the people who elect f*cking useless politicians into parliament. We let them make crap policy. Maybe if WE got off our arses and started to take notice of what's happening, then things would be a little different

[avgas]

Damn straight! WE are the people who elect f*cking useless politicians into parliament.

Not me - i voted to get rid of the politicians by not voting.
I realise now that doesnt matter - we are fucked and its time to vote for the lesser of 2 evils.

[Pixie]

The Aussie and LA cop are laughing their arses off

[Albino]

With all the pc bullshit these days and rights and shit - I'm not surprised. The cops have been bagged so much that they have no choice but to "follow procedure." What seems to be common sense, is hamstrung by bureaucracy and red tape.

Here's another great example:

Teachers didn't apprehend a 9 year old student that was going beserk and running around with a stick because "they were worried about their safety and the repercussions of manhandling a student."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10464820

[Albino]

You're a retard. Not really anything else to say. I'm glad they're not all rip shit and bust like it seems you would be...

Why thank you. I've dealt with some really nice retarded kids so I'll take that as a compliment. An ex detective disagrees though.... http://www.stuff.co.nz/4207784a10.html

I suspect though that may be the reason he left the force....

"Urgency was the name of the game," the former detective said.

He said there was a possibility she may have been alive when she was put in the boot and was still alive when Mr Xue left Auckland for Melbourne last Thursday.

"Christ, one of your prime duties of your oath of office (as a police officer) is to protect life," he said.

The ex-officer said the police had too many senior officers in the upper echelon who did not "think outside the square and don't know where the jugular is and to go for it and to get their priorities right.

"I don't know if they are scared of all the niceties they think they are supposed to bloody observe or whatever."

[Usarka]

Paperwork should never be used as an excuse for not trying to save someones life.

[marty]

i went to college with D/Sgt simon scott, and i would n't think he would fall into the above description. he is a good hands-on coppa.

and 'Interpol' is not some secret james bond-esque organisation. for the most part ot is just an MOU between police forces to assist in investigations, and interpol is the organisation that acts as the go-between.

my guess is that in the absence of a smoking gun or bloodied crime scene, d/sgt scott is crossing and dotting every letter of the alphabet so his case is watertight. the crimes act allows entry by force for some things, but the admissibility of evidence gained from jemmying open a boot of a car that has been parked on the road for weeks, in full view of all neighbours, when there was plenty of time to get a search warrant (probably one search warrant of a dozen or so applied for) could easily be questined. imagine that - evidence in a murder being thrown out because the correct proceedure had not been followed? how much whingeing would ya'll be doing then?

[marty]

Paperwork should never be used as an excuse for not trying to save someones life.

it's not. the test in the car boot would have been 'was there resonable grounds to suspect that there is a person alive in the boot of this car. if so, we can break into it. if not, there is a paperwork trail to follow'. section 317 of the crimes act is pretty clear.

[mstriumph]

Not me - i voted to get rid of the politicians by not voting.
I realise now that doesnt matter - we are fucked and its time to vote for the lesser of 2 evils.

if the vote was worth anything they'd never let you have one anyway ...

[peasea]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10464791
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4207784a10.html

Hmmm, we're looking for some one who we think has been murdered. Do ya think we should check at their house? Nah lets leave it a couple of days.......

Or

Oh shit, we didn't think to look for a dead body in the boot of a car

Or

I don't have time for that murder stuff, I've got "performance targets" to achieve.


Sorry, it's been a while since the last KB cop bash.

You're obviously not reading MY posts.

[marty]

You're obviously not reading MY posts.

Maybe that's cause they don't say anything worth reading.

[COP_B8]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10464791
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4207784a10.html

Hmmm, we're looking for some one who we think has been murdered. Do ya think we should check at their house? Nah lets leave it a couple of days.......

Or

Oh shit, we didn't think to look for a dead body in the boot of a car

Or

I don't have time for that murder stuff, I've got "performance targets" to achieve.


Sorry, it's been a while since the last KB cop bash.

Im sure had it been your house/car the police just wandered into and started stooping around it would be a slightly different story????

Had they ignored legal processes there would be all kinds of fun at trial for defence lawyers surrounding the admissibality of the evidence they found!

[Guitana]

So just another case of beauracracy gone mad!! Sorry you need to fill out form "A" before you can search a murder scene , but if you havent got form 2a, you will have to see your supervisor and organise a 4c form then fill out a 5b to notify the judge you have a 7b!!! Confused FUCK YEAH!!!
I can only imagine what the fuzz feel like they probably all knew she'd been stuffed in the boot of the car!!!
At least these asian immigrants are really tidy when they commit homicide they either stuff them in a suitcase neatly folded or pack them in the boot of a car no messy bodies lying around in the streets!

[Albino]

Im sure had it been your house/car the police just wandered into and started stooping around it would be a slightly different story????

Had they ignored legal processes there would be all kinds of fun at trial for defence lawyers surrounding the admissibality of the evidence they found!

To be honest if the cops broke into my house because they were searching for someone who might be in serious danger I would probably be ok with it even if they got it wrong. As long as that I might request compensation for broken windows or whatever.

Marty - Regarding the reasonable cause part earlier - surely the cops had reasonable cause to believe she was in serious danger. And surely they had reasonable cause to believe their could be clues in the car. Which means they had reasonable cause to believe breaking into the car could save someone in danger. Does this really mean that they still have to get a warrant?

Still shouldn't take 2 days though, regardless.