Moon landing - Fact or fake?

**pzkpfw** · 26th September 2007, 18:46

Originally Posted by doc

Just a word of advice from someone who was alive way back then but doesn't remember the actual landing. Go and get the movie "Capricorn One", watch it and then tell me if you believe it .

Movies require a willing suspension of disbelief from the audience. If you think "Capricorn One" shows that a hoax was possible, your suspension of disbelief has crossed over into reality.

**doc** · 26th September 2007, 18:52

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Movies require a willing suspension of disbelief from the audience. If you think "Capricorn One" shows that a hoax was possible, your suspension of disbelief has crossed over into reality.

Many believe what Hollywood produces, is true. I prefer cartoons "Shrek" was very good. "Nemo" was so close to home.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 26th September 2007, 19:05

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Movies require a willing suspension of disbelief from the audience. If you think "Capricorn One" shows that a hoax was possible, your suspension of disbelief has crossed over into reality.

though that movie was pretty kewl, it had more holes in the story line than a cheese greater has...

if they walked the moon or not... if they didn't how did they keep the Russians quiet who were watching closer than me looking at porn

**peasea** · 26th September 2007, 19:13

Originally Posted by GaZBur

I has to be true because if the Americans didn't get to the moon how do you explain the space junk found by Wallace and Grommit when they went there!!! Explain that away!!! Nya - ha! You can't can you - and I saw that Wallace and Grommit movie myself with my own eyes so it can't have been faked can it.

Yes, more facts, solid evidence etc, those two really had some technology didn't they?

**Skyryder** · 26th September 2007, 20:18

Originally Posted by 007XX

Me thinks he'll be more enclined to see her moons...

I'd be more interested in her mons.

Skyryder

**Skyryder** · 26th September 2007, 20:48

Originally Posted by doc

Just a word of advice from someone who was alive way back then but doesn't remember the actual landing. Go and get the movie "Capricorn One", watch it and then tell me if you believe it .

Good movie but that was all it was. A movie. Given the penchant that Americans can not keep a secret if the moon landing was a fake that would now be well known. Now there's a rebuttal to this.

When the government wants to discredit the truth the truth becomes a conspiracy theory. Given the fact that conspiracy theories are an American thing and the Americans are the worlds worst at keeping secrets it stands to reason that all conspiracy theories must have their origin in the American government. When the truth comes out that is different from the official version out come conspiracy theory.

Now if you believe that you are a confirmed conspiritorialophobe. In other words you will believe anything.

Skyryder

**Swoop** · 26th September 2007, 21:02

The "new" X-Prize might finally prove things.

Starship One won the first X-Prize by being launched into orbit twice within a short time turnaround.
The next competition invites contestants to land a rover on the moon. Bonus payable if they can land near sites of previous landings.

**Steam** · 26th September 2007, 21:13

Originally Posted by Usarka

Read Omon Ra by victor pelevin, it's about russias moon mission.

I went to the library and got it out, good book.

The Plot:
The Russians sent young cosmonauts to the moon on supposed "unmanned probes" because their automated technology wasn't good enough. One way missions of course.
Once there, the cosmonaut was expected to complete the robot's mission, then shoot himself in the head before he ran out of oxygen.
But THEN, (SPOILER!) the suicide gun misfired, and he found he didn't run out of air, and in fact was on a sound stage under Moscow!!
Even the cosmonaut didn't know!

It's a literary book, quite sad and hilarious at the same time. Translated into English from the original Russian.

**scrivy** · 26th September 2007, 22:15

You can't tell me that they landed on the moon!
Nasa experts will refute any hoax claim made. But since they are the experts, and they knew what the conditions were, and what was required to get there, they are in the box seat to try and dispel any myth.

There is just too much invalid data to suggest it was real.
Doesn't the USA have a freedom of information law that enables all information to be made available after 50 years?? Maybe we'll know for sure then???

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 26th September 2007, 22:18

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

**pzkpfw** · 26th September 2007, 22:33

Originally Posted by scrivy

But since they are the experts, and they knew what the conditions were, and what was required to get there, they ...

... maybe used that knowledge to actually get there?

Originally Posted by scrivy

There is just too much invalid data to suggest it was real.

Like what?

Originally Posted by scrivy

Doesn't the USA have a freedom of information law that enables all information to be made available after 50 years?? Maybe we'll know for sure then???

This is the sort of thing they'd never ever be able to have revealed, if faked.

...and they'd have known, if it had been faked, that one day the truth would have to come out.

(Most Goverments have limitations on what can be revealed, U.S. freedom of information laws are no exception; but that wouldn't have stopped a hoax being revealed. [Which it hasn't.])

**Laava** · 26th September 2007, 22:56

Me, I was very impressed recently [this or last year] when Buzz Aldrin absolutely smashed this journalist in the face when he attempted to disrepute the lunar landing. It's prob on you tube. I'll go and have a look.

**Strider** · 26th September 2007, 23:44

Moon landing may be fake, but roswell was real.

**Wolf** · 27th September 2007, 00:50

Well, Elvis dun tole me it wuz faked when I met him in Walmart - ya see, when them ayleeuns done took him away they gave him a tuer of the moon and he seed with his own eyes that no one from Earth has ever bin there. Ceptin' him and a couple others who went for a ride in one o' them UFOs, of course...

**idb** · 27th September 2007, 08:07

Originally Posted by Wolf

Well, Elvis dun tole me it wuz faked when I met him in Walmart - ya see, when them ayleeuns done took him away they gave him a tuer of the moon and he seed with his own eyes that no one from Earth has ever bin there. Ceptin' him and a couple others who went for a ride in one o' them UFOs, of course...

I find it very hard to accept that you have a Walmart in Hamilton...has anyone else seen it or just you?