Police shoot and kill another person

[imdying]

Nowhere in these parts has anyone ever been shot for breaking windows or for speeding, getting real ridiculous here suddenly.....

What do you expect? He's got nothing.

[jrandom]

Monte Carlo. Okay, not really a country but it's a great place to live. Crime is basically unheard of.

Monte Carlo is barely a suburb, and one of the wealthiest in the world. As a valid example, your statement is on a similar level to saying that your living room isn't really a country, but it's a great place to live because crime is basically unheard of there.

I expect far better arguments that that from you, Mr Finn...

[Finn]

Monte Carlo is barely a suburb

The Gaza Strip ain't that big either. Monaco has its own Government (constitutional monarchy), Police, Health and Education systems. It is completely independent from France.

I think it's a great example, even if on the edge of extremes.

[Usarka]

Monte Carlo is barely a suburb, and one of the wealthiest in the world.

I bet they don't let in unskilled immigrants to live.....

[Coldrider]

How 'bout Singapore, poor yank boy got a floggi'n for scratching a car.
How 'bout Bali, at least they deal to the route cause of the problem.

[jrandom]

The Gaza Strip ain't that big either. Monaco has its own Government (constitutional monarchy), Police, Health and Education systems. It is completely independent from France.

I think it's a great example, even if on the edge of extremes.

Neither the Gaza strip nor Monte Carlo (you did say Monte Carlo, not Monaco) exist as identifiably separate and independent sociopolitical and economic countries. They are heavily reliant upon monetary input and social context from their neighbours.

Any analysis of crime or other statistics must be seen in that light. Your using Monte Carlo as an example of a safe place to live is like trying to apply lessons learned in Epsom to fix the social issues in Mangere.

It's underpants gnome logic.

Step 1: collect underpants, step 3: profit.

Or, in your case, step 2: be wealthy, step 3: low crime.

Step 1 in your logic is the hard part which you are not addressing.

[Coldrider]

I think you'll find the topic is about a man who was going to take on an armed cop with a hammer, presumably with a view to killing him by smashing his head open.... keep up will ya

Unfortunately that is not a fact, but a presumption put forward to justify.

[imdying]

It's gnome logic.

Oooh, subtle, I like it

[jrandom]

Oooh, subtle, I like it

Gosh! Of course.

Now we know Finn's secret business plan; he must have figured out Step 2...

[imdying]

Unfortunately that is not a fact, but a presumption put forward to justify.

Yeah, I'm making an ass of u and me... but, I don't think it's unreasonable given the situation to assume that he had no other purpose in mind

Unless there's something else you can do with a hammer and a policeman (ideas on the back of a postcard to the usual address)?

[jrandom]

Unfortunately that is not a fact, but a presumption put forward to justify.

If someone runs at me with a hammer held aloft, making threats, I am going to presume that his intention is to cause me harm, and if I have a gun, I'm gonna shoot him with it.

If you would react differently, you're a very odd individual indeed.

[Coldrider]

good boy, you suck down that cop propaganda like a good lemming.

no doubt you'd be whining if it were your child or brother slaughtered for property dmage though..............

Donuts aren't they.

15 year old schoolgirls are right into BZP and herbal highs, wait till one of those runs amoc in the street.

[jrandom]

15 year old schoolgirls are right into BZP and herbal highs, wait till one of those runs amoc in the street.

Mm hmm, and if she has a lethal weapon, I'll fully support any cop who shoots her.

[imdying]

There's already street gangs full of lower socio economic girls running amoc. Sooner they start popping rounds into them the better... they think they can't be touched because they're female... nice.

[Finn]

Your using Monte Carlo as an example of a safe place to live is like trying to apply lessons learned in Epsom to fix the social issues in Mangere.

But it is safe and there's a good reason for it. I was responding to a question - Name a country that does get it right. Monte Carlo is a municipality of Monaco - a small technicality. I did say it was an extreme example.

Singapore is another good example but I wouldn't want to live there. It feels like you're in Auckland minus the low lifes.