Police shoot and kill another person

[Finn]

I see, "drop your hammer or we'll kill you" is fine and dandy with you. tell that to me after someone you love has been slaughtered by police unwilling to seek non lethal alternatives

I was beginning to wonder about this. Did you know this guy Idle?

[Coldrider]

Nope... good luck at work was all... good luck that they weren't armed.

Nah , you can't knock me for praising good policing. Bet they didn't get on TV1 news.(didn't see 6pm news), wouldn't have aided the Govt broadcast machine.

[idleidolidyll]

no, i'd even argue the same if partick was killed by a cop: I value human life and in my opinion it is always better to have broken toys than dead people

[idleidolidyll]

I was beginning to wonder about this. Did you know this guy Idle?

it's called empathy Finn; a few people here have it and the rest are ignorant rednecks

[jrandom]

I value human life and in my opinion it is always better to have broken toys than dead people

The guy who got shot was moving toward the cop, holding a hammer, apparently expressing a clear intention of attacking the cop with it.

How about telling us what the fuck you think the cop should have done?

[idleidolidyll]

go back 5 hours and read my posts; i don't care to repeat myself for the lazy

[Finn]

it's called empathy Finn; a few people here have it and the rest are ignorant rednecks

Yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaa boooooyyyyyy!!!

[Coldrider]

It is the Police who are not armed "routinely" and I for one hope it never gets that way..

That's a myth, you and I know it, and hopefully most don't know it.

[Scouse]

Soooooooo..... call the Police, theres a guy smashing up cars with a hammer. You say, why bother calling the cops, coz they should sit there and do absolutely nothing anyhow?

Ok Patrick this is not me having a go at you just me playing devils advocate
Sooooo why is it at any thing to do with maori protest like "Motua gardens" or that recent protest up north where maori radicals were blocking a public road the cops seem to "sit there and do absolutely nothing"? I personaly would like to see them go in guns blazing in these circumstances.

[I Smell Bacon]

This slant is what you don't seem to comprehend... he was not shot for breaking windows (is there an echo from Waitara going on in this guys head?). He was shot for trying to kill a cop. Full stop, end of story.

He's just a bent individual who doesn't want to comprehend, you're wasting precious cyber space by answering this morons posts.

[Patrick]

I see, "drop your hammer or we'll kill you" is fine and dandy with you. tell that to me after someone you love has been slaughtered by police unwilling to seek non lethal alternatives

Soooo.... you're saying the cop got out of the car, weapon drawn, racked and one up the spout, and ready to shoot? You seem to know more about the story than some?

no, i'd even argue the same if partick was killed by a cop: I value human life and in my opinion it is always better to have broken toys than dead people

No worries there... I wouldn't have a go at a cop, let alone if he was armed....

I too value human life, but I value my own life a hell of a lot more than some sack trying to stove my head in with a hammer.

The guy who got shot was moving toward the cop, holding a hammer, apparently expressing a clear intention of attacking the cop with it.

How about telling us what the fuck you think the cop should have done?

You get it, he doesn't... or is it just me????

[idleidolidyll]

Soooo.... you're saying the cop got out of the car, weapon drawn, racked and one up the spout, and ready to shoot? You seem to know more about the story than some?

Nope but YOU have been quoting the police propaganda as if THAT were gospel regardless of what a number of witnesses say in contrast.

I'M saying the cop had choices but he chose lethal force before giving non lethal options a chance

[jrandom]

go back 5 hours and read my posts; i don't care to repeat myself for the lazy

I've read your posts; I'm not lazy. You haven't actually suggested any way the cop could have safely disarmed the drugged-up hammer-wielding nutjob without a firearm or Taser.

What's he supposed to do, use Jedi mind control tricks?

In the end, the guy with the hammer needed to be neutralised.

We're going round in circles here. You're reacting emotionally to the fact that someone did something stupid and got killed; others are pointing out that there wasn't any reasonable alternative available at the time.

Are you just trolling for shits and giggles, or are you really as incapable of rational and emotionally-detached thought as your comments in this thread would indicate?

[jrandom]

he chose lethal force before giving non lethal options a chance

What non lethal options?

Please. Enlighten us. Be specific, or shut the fuck up.

[idleidolidyll]

No worries there... I wouldn't have a go at a cop, let alone if he was armed....

neither would i but does that mean it's ok to kill someone else because they were too stoned to think clearly?

I too value human life, but I value my own life a hell of a lot more than some sack trying to stove my head in with a hammer.

still swallowing i see


You get it, he doesn't... or is it just me????

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