Pre-Election Poll

[MSTRS:Me]

Cullen's.... at least witty in the house.

him. witty. not even au

[SPman]

If a business succeeds in this shitty market, it's because of good leadership and has NOTHING to do with fucken Helen you dumbarse.

The only reason "ordinary" peoples income has risen marginally (still WAY behind Australia) is because of supply and demand. This is because SO many talented people are leaving this shithole.

What colour is the sky in your little world?

Isn't that the way it should be - you want to see more businesses with crap leaders supported because of public policy - sounds like a communist policy to me.......

Costs in Oz are higher, so the wages should be higher. After 18 months here I've just matched what I was getting in NZ!



A beautiful clear blue, with the odd wispy cloud......(just answered that one coz the sky is so nice...)

[Wolf]

I'm surprised, given the number of people on this site who go on about the "nanny state" and how we can't defend ourselves from the crims, the amount of support both National and Labour are getting in this poll.

Both of them are die-hard proponents of the Nanny State. National's current policies may be a "secret" but their track record of telling the public what they can and cannot do is well known.

They will legislate to control our personal lives every bit as much as Labour and the Greens combined. They will not improve police numbers, priorities or response times. They will not improve the law so you can legally defend yourself or your family against an attacker - in fact, from the wittering that National Party members have done over the years, they are more likely to make it even less legal.

National's laws are simple: For fraud and other monetary crimes that affect Big Business: Hang, draw and quarter. For violent crimes against people: slap on the hand with a wet bus ticket - and that's if the cops ever catch the perp because they're going to have their work cut out for them chasing every brass groat that some grasping multinational corporation thinks it's being cheated of.

I have seen NZ slide further and further into chaos over the years at the hands of both National and Labour. It is high time we binned both of them and got a government that will act in the interests of NZ people.

New Zealand First is not an option. The party members are all just meat-puppets controlled by Winston Peters who has proven himself a liar when it comes to matters of his own self-interest - he'd happily jump in bed with Chairman Mao if it meant a plum role as a cabinet minister with a decent portfolio. Made the mistake of voting for the lying prick once and he repaid me by doing a 180 on his election platform in under three minutes. Tricksy! False! Peters is lying filth and not worth spitting on.

Greens are a pack of drugged out flakes who'd have us living in caves eating mung beans within months. We would have no electricity or even candles due to the 'carbon footprint" and we won't even be able to smack a dog that's biting our kids' throats out because that'd be cruelty to animals.

In keeping with their "Lesbian with no kids dictates parenting law" tactics, their minister of finance will be worse at book-keeping than I am and their energy minister will be researching this cool dream in which he saw all of New Zealand powered by the harmonious energies of (fortunately for us) common quartz. And Sue Bradford will write all the family laws.

Despite the fact I disagree with a number of the Libertarianz Party's policies, I will be voting for them as I agree with enough of their policies to think they'd make a positive difference to New Zealand.

That way, the next time I hear whining in the threads saying "fucking nanny state" and "why can't a man hit a punk who was beating his son into a pulp" - under National's "benevolent" reign, I suspect - I'll be able to say "well, perhaps if you'd put your money where your mouth was and voted for a party that upholds our sovereign rights to personal dignity and responsibility..."

At least I'll trying to get a government that views us as more than a meal ticket.

But then, it's a lot easier to say "fuck taking responsibility for our actions, let's vote for a party that will tell us what to do" - even if that's just to vote another party out.

[Wolf]

Isn't that the way it should be - you want to see more businesses with crap leaders supported because of public policy - sounds like a communist policy to me.......

Ha ha! Excellent.

Labour: Legislate to support most the people at the expense of all but a few businesses (who actually know what the fuck they're doing).

National: Legislate to support most of the businesses at the expense of all but a privileged few people (who will all get knighthoods for upholding the proud tradition of all knights - grinding the peasants beneath their sabatons).

[SPman]

I used to vote Values. Then Progressive Green, (Greens, with a nod towards the realities of life and business).
After that it was into the wilderness. Libertarianz would seem to have something - freedom from everything and the right to starve to death in ill health and penury as a governmental incentive.

Maori party last time coz I liked Pita Sharples outlook on life.........and a vote for the electorate MP who I thought would be best for the electorate, not the government as a whole.

[koba]

Labour is the king shitslinger, remember them bringing brash's personal life up in parliament!!!! Mallard didn't like it when the tables turned and resorted to his fists! He never even left a mark! what a pussy.
Helen always gets into personal attacks and then cries when someone fires it back!
Whoever these maori "terrorists" were, its a shame they didn't flatten parliament so we could start again!

Never said labour don't shitsling, you're right, they do.
National however dont have much else.
The media love to stir the pot but when I look at the current situation in New Zealand I don't see the fancy buzzwords I see a wee country ticking along ok as it is.
As smaller change to the current government in the next election is probably the best thing to help maintain the period of stability we have enjoyed over the last few years.

I don't care if helen is ugly, or if the police are allowed to round up firearms offenders its much less important than me having a good job with decent pay and the ability to take my bike out in the weekend.

[avgas]

No, that's National as in "Fucked if we know what our policies are, we'll do what they do but with tax cuts (but if they offer tax cuts they're 'bribing' you)"
National's a fucking joke

To be honest i think that is the most honest announcement by a party. Its a whole lot better than Labors-Bullshit-Old-wives-tale. Eg "We'll do it next year.....honest"
I have got less excuses from my misses. And she is good at them

[avgas]

I believe the difference in votes can be put down to the students and/or parents of students who got their student loan conditions well eased. Oh, and the LiarCullen hinting that tax cuts would be in the next budget.
Labour Buys Votes.

I have had $10K sitting in a bank account as a running bet that either party will pull out of that soon. Trust a person as far as you can throw them, Trust a party if you are a throwing savant.

[avgas]

Despite the fact I disagree with a number of the Libertarianz Party's policies, I will be voting for them as I agree with enough of their policies to think they'd make a positive difference to New Zealand.

That way, the next time I hear whining in the threads saying "fucking nanny state" and "why can't a man hit a punk who was beating his son into a pulp" - under National's "benevolent" reign, I suspect - I'll be able to say "well, perhaps if you'd put your money where your mouth was and voted for a party that upholds our sovereign rights to personal dignity and responsibility..."

At least I'll trying to get a government that views us as more than a meal ticket.

But then, it's a lot easier to say "fuck taking responsibility for our actions, let's vote for a party that will tell us what to do" - even if that's just to vote another party out.

I used to believe in that, now i just vote to make my life easier. And have wicked thoughts every Nov 5th.............
As far as im concerned now - the government is not required. But if i must vote (i refused to vote for many years....but that protest is a waste)- voting on minor parties is a waste of my time (like pissing in the ocean here).
Tell you what - if they get 5% this time, i will vote for them next.

[Skyryder]

And national doesn't?

What's National's policy on the interest free student loans?

It'll be much the same as Labour. At present all their policies that they have announced are very much in line with Labour's. If they are not John U Turn Keys changes them so that they are.

I've always said that to fuck off the Greens, Act, etc. is that Labour and the Nats form a coalition. I've actually mooted this on the odd occasion at political do's that I occasionaly attend. No one has taken me seriously, yet when I mention this at parties etc most people that have a smattering of political knowledge can see the merits that this would have for the country. While their are differences between Labour and the Nats their thinking in many areas are much the same.

Skyryder

[swbarnett]

Tell you what - if they get 5% this time, i will vote for them next.

And if everyone that thought like that actually voted with their conscience instead of acting like sheep maybe they'd get over the 5%

[Usarka]

Despite the fact I disagree with a number of the Libertarianz Party's policies, I will be voting for them as I agree with enough of their policies to think they'd make a positive difference to New Zealand.

Well you could vote for them haha but you'd be throwing your vote away. It's a two party system!!

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Ah just vote for me... pretty sure I could do a better job... and my policies are...

[MisterD]

[QUOTE=Usarka;1282255]. It's a two party system!!

[QUOTE]

It's not a two party system, it's MMP. Where to govern, one of the two major parties has to pander to the policies of some lunatic fringe mob like the Greens or the Mowrees.

[Usarka]

Not unless the majority vote for one party, thus removing a large amount of time currently wasted in pandering to the minority government.

A lot of National voters might prefer to vote another minor party but are voting National for this reason.

btw - it's was a joke....