Terrorism protests

[Mikkel]

It's a jandal.

Actually, it an uber fearsome wooden club (can't remember the name of them) but I do think that the proper terrorists with their AK-47s are a bit envious...

[jrandom]

Actually, it an uber fearsome wooden club (can't remember the name of them)...

From Wikipedia:

A patu is a short-handled Māori club made of bone, stone or wood.

There are three types of patu: mere, meremere, and kotiate.

The word Patu is also commonly used in New Zealand, primarily by young Maori, to describe something which is broken, or substandard.

[SwanTiger]

So how can an assassination of the leader of the opposition not be an act of terrorism?

Because the publication of those transcripts were used out of context by the Dominion Post, giving the perception of a serious intention to cause harm to the leader of the opposition.

When the Solicitor General reviewed all the applicable evidence, in context, he evidently came to the conclusion that there was not enough proof of intention.

Anyway, I am disgusting by those monkeys.

[Paul in NZ]

You what? They're practising blowing people up and you think a "strategic regional economic development" might be a good idea. Unless that's PC speak for "burn their houses and throw the cunts in the sea" then, respectfully, I shall have to disagree.

Dave

Nah - thats not these guys - these are the loons that were stressed by the 'invasion'... The dumb yokels that tame Iti found he could impress with his magic latern shows..

Nothing like elevating people to the middle classes to dampen down the fires of revolt - once people have something to loose - the loose the desire to risk it all.. ;-)

[MisterD]

Because the publication of those transcripts were used out of context by the Dominion Post, giving the perception of a serious intention to cause harm to the leader of the opposition.

True, I'm sure you could pull quotes off KB that spliced together in the right way would look like a good justification to raid SpankMe's house...but the published evidence was only from the affidavit to the court to obtain search warrants, we haven't been told what those searches actually found.

[sels1]

Perhaps a bit of strategic regional economic development might be the longer term solution?

This is a good and wise suggestion...but it would have to be made pretty attractive to compete with receiving a benefit for doing F all, and getting cash growing and trading cannabis and other dodgy activities

[SPman]

Because the publication of those transcripts were used out of context by the Dominion Post, giving the perception of a serious intention to cause harm to the leader of the opposition.

When the Solicitor General reviewed all the applicable evidence, in context, he evidently came to the conclusion that there was not enough proof of intention.

sorry to cut and paste, but.....

If this material had been revealed in court, the defence could have properly tested it and cross-examined the witnesses. That right has now been denied to them, as they cannot respond for fear of prejudicing their case on the remaining charges. The effect will be to establish "facts" in the public mind (and thus of potential jurors) which have not been properly tested - "facts" which are highly contentious and could have a significant bearing in a case which is ultimately about the purpose for which firearms were being used. It’s all the worse when you consider that in an effort to avoid prosecution, the Dominion-Post has anonymised the evidence. While on the one hand this seems to avoid some of the worst features of trial by media, the net effect is to lose any distinction between the accused, and tar them all with the same brush. According to Campbell Live, the number of people recorded making dangerous and violent statements was five - but now all seventeen defendants get to be smeared with the extremist views of Jamie Lockett.

[Mr Merde]

Actually, it an uber fearsome wooden club (can't remember the name of them) but I do think that the proper terrorists with their AK-47s are a bit envious...

So no problems with the metal detectors when they finally enter the 21st century then?

[Mikkel]

So no problems with the metal detectors when they finally enter the 21st century then?

True, but I think people might start getting an idea about what's going to happen as they fire up the haka.

Besides - these days the door to the cockpits are locked and they'd need a rather solid log in order to batter it open. As such I rate the likelyhood of anyone capturing a plane with a patus rather slight.

[SwanTiger]

True, I'm sure you could pull quotes off KB that spliced together in the right way would look like a good justification to raid SpankMe's house...but the published evidence was only from the affidavit to the court to obtain search warrants, we haven't been told what those searches actually found.

Obivously those searches revealed nothing compeling enough to validate any of the charges under the new Terrorism act.

Step back for a minute and look at all of the responses to this thread, then consider the feelings and thoughts of the general population.

What does it make you feel?

What does it make you think?

I believe, your feelings become your thoughts and your thoughts become your words and your words become your actions.

Now consider this, who in the political spectrum would most benefit from my actions?

[Finn]

Now consider this, who in the political spectrum would most benefit from my actions?

So the protesters are National supporters?

[SwanTiger]

So the protesters are National supporters?

They'll support anyone that will show sympathy to their cause, they're attention whores with no purpose.

They've acheived nothing except to enforce the existing general populations opinion, wasted a shit load of gas travelling down there, and quite a few I presume, have the worst chaffering imaginable.

[007XY]

Wouldnt it be nice to be just a kiwi, not a pakeha or a maori, and leave all this shit behind us.
Bloody scary though to think this sort of thing is happening right in our back door, I just hope they are all piss and wind

I'm with ya.. we've got such a great country and we should be working together.. it's ironic because that's exactly what the 'real' Treaty of Waitangi is all about.. "the United Chiefs and tribes and all the people of New Zealand".. and funny it makes no mention of seabeds.. and forests that did'nt exist in 1840. When I say 'real' I'm reffering to the true final draft of 4/2/1840 and the subsequent translation into Maori that was actually signed!! not the notes and rough drafts of 2/2/1840, 3/2/1840. The final draft is also known as the 'Littlewood treaty' as it was in the hands of the Littlewood family for 150 years. A very interesting site.. http://www.celticnz.co.nz/

PS.. by signing the 'treaty' Moari gave their sovereignty to the crown of England.. now by flying a flag and claiming they don't recognise the crown.. would that be treason?

[MisterD]

Obivously those searches revealed nothing compeling enough to validate any of the charges under the new Terrorism act.

...and the solicitor general was quite clear in blaming the act for that state or affairs, and not the police or the evidence they presented.

[BuFfY]

PS.. by signing the 'treaty' Moari gave their sovereignty to the crown of England.. now by flying a flag and claiming they don't recognise the crown.. would that be treason?

Yeah I was thinking that as well, but can they still try someone for treason?