PrePay SUCKS! Name and shame the gas stations.

[Grahameeboy]

Nope. I get my facts from someone in the business of developing the very systems we are discussing. This person, recently departed from the industry, explained in no uncertain terms that the 'theft' reason is mainly a snow job and that the real reasons for prepay are as described: to have motorists spend more time (and money) in the shop buying crap.
For the same reason, acco4rding to him, most gas stations refuse to install or use pay at pump (eftpos at pump).

My posts are not just opinion; they are fact based.

As for identifying the particular gas station: Yes, I make no excuses. THAT is the point after all; to identify which stations are bike friendly and which are not and to use the pressure of our purchasing power to vote with our feet away from poor service and towards good service.

If you don't care, that's fine but don't expect the rest of us to sit back and be fucked over just so companies can make more profit on the back of worse service.

Welcome to the real world of marketing Idle....supermarkets have always marketing their ailes etc to maximise sales and get is to buy stuff we would not always buy.......why should Gas Stations be any different.

[idleidolidyll]

Welcome to the real world of marketing Idle....supermarkets have always marketing their ailes etc to maximise sales and get is to buy stuff we would not always buy.......why should Gas Stations be any different.

Welcome to....????

ROTFLMFAO!! I've been a part of it most of my life as a top salesman, sales manager, international sales manager and self employed importer.

the OTHER side of marketing is that those companies who ignore the complaints of their customers lose business.

THAT is the whole point

[Grahameeboy]

Welcome to....????

ROTFLMFAO!! I've been a part of it most of my life as a top salesman, sales manager, international sales manager and self employed importer.

the OTHER side of marketing is that those companies who ignore the complaints of their customers lose business.

THAT is the whole point

You know in medieval times they used to dunk people in the river if they showed signs of delusion or telling the future and see who sank.......

[idleidolidyll]

You know in medieval times they used to dunk people in the river if they showed signs of delusion or telling the future and see who sank.......

were you wearing a scuba tank?

[Grahameeboy]

were you wearing a scuba tank?

Nah, did have them in those days........lol

[steveb64]

Snip'd

And if you pay attention, my posts was about pre-pay, or rather the lack of in the states. Can't even remember a gas station that didn't let you walk in even in the middle of the night. No locked doors, no prepay.

Big gun under the counter.

[idleidolidyll]

About as worthy of respect as someone who forms an opinion based on the opinions of others and then changes them when the person you're arguing with starts to agree with you.


Where would be the fun in that?

And if you pay attention, my posts was about pre-pay, or rather the lack of in the states. Can't even remember a gas station that didn't let you walk in even in the middle of the night. No locked doors, no prepay.

you took the opportunity to introduce your boring defence of fascist Amerikkka; tuff shit. it's a big yawn

[idleidolidyll]

About as worthy of respect as someone who forms an opinion based on the opinions of others and then changes them when the person you're arguing with starts to agree with you.

go cry to someone who cares; my opinions are formed based on research not just the opinions of others and they don't change unless someone with intelligence is able to convince me that I'm wrong.

You have failed miserably to do that

[idleidolidyll]

I have a meeting this afternoon but later, if I get a chance, I will read again all the messages and try to sort out a list of the best and the worst gas stations for motorcyclists.

Criteria? Have to think about that but gas stations with prepay who demand that you pay a dollar amount before filling will be in the 'Worst' category, gas stations who make you walk into the station before they authorise the pump would be next worst, gas stations that are slow at authorising pumps but do without you going in would be next and gas stations that see a bike and authorise quickly would be top of the 'go visit' list.

Likewise, those gas stations with pay at pump who actually have it turned on all the time will get a top rating but those who have it and don't use it will be rated lower.

Any other selection criteria you could suggest would also be considered such as air compressors that have motorbike suitable valves etc (many don't)

[Paul in NZ]

Strangely - I'm forced to agree to a degree - oil companies spend a lot of time and effort convincing the driver and more importantly the passengers that they really must get out of the vehicle and enter the retail killing zone of the actual building.

However - another problem with pay at the pump was that it was not actually that popular with the punters or frankly - that reliable so i would not hold out hope that this will become widespread.

To the larger question - is this some kind of plot to get more of your money? Erm - yes... But very little in retail happens by accident, from the layout to the colours, the music to the smell in the air - its all carefully considered to either keep you in store longer or to encourage you to purchase more.

Does it work? Yes - of course it does - not everytime but in the business of big retail of FMCG such as supermarkets and petrol a slight increase in turnover is the difference between loosing a fortune and making a fortune. Is prepaid the work of the devil? Yes - and the only way to stop it is to collectively avoid stations that insist on it. I for one think it's a royal pain in the behind.

[skelstar]

Mobil Silverstream (Wgtn). Not all the time, but most probably when late at night. Don't go often enough to gauge.

[Waylander]

go cry to someone who cares; my opinions are formed based on research not just the opinions of others and they don't change unless someone with intelligence is able to convince me that I'm wrong.

You have failed miserably to do that

Shall I find the post for you where you state that you will change your opinion just to keep the argument going?

[don rocard]

Prepay insenses me ,they assume my intention is to steal petrol.The station that I have used for a couple of years has gone prepay now.Last time I was there the pump needed to be turned on and the guy said you have to prepay.O K I want to know how much I need to pay for?He dint know so I went to a SERVICE station down the road and got filled up.Stick your prepay up your arse ya bloody hindu.

[idleidolidyll]

Shall I find the post for you where you state that you will change your opinion just to keep the argument going?

go away you boring person; this thread is about prepay

if you don't have some prepay content; spare us your presence

[Grahameeboy]

Prepay insenses me ,they assume my intention is to steal petrol.The station that I have used for a couple of years has gone prepay now.Last time I was there the pump needed to be turned on and the guy said you have to prepay.O K I want to know how much I need to pay for?He dint know so I went to a SERVICE station down the road and got filled up.Stick your prepay up your arse ya bloody hindu.

They are not saying that you are a criminal..........so far just a handful of gas stations have been listed and how many others are there that we can go to.....which you did?

How do you know he was Hindu?