Cemetary circuit 2007: Farce

[White trash]

For the life of me I just can't figure out why motorcycle racing is not better supported by the public....

Sounds pretty rough WT - expected though and I'll bet you will suffer for making it public as well...

Probably mate. To be honest, I don't give a shit.

The politics in NZ racing are disgracefull. Privateers are simply not allowed to compete on even footing with the "factory" riders. Don't get me wrong, those guys have sure earned their rides through years of hard work and dedication, they deserve the support. But I can't help thinking the sport would be far better off if there was a more level playing field.

[Nasty]

I would put in a formal complaint about this to MNZ ... 1. not telling who the rider rep was .... 2. changing the rules. These are things which those running the event should be sanctioned on as it is unacceptable.

[jazbug5]

What a wunch of bankers.

Surely this is fraud? Not that shady stuff is unexpected, unfortunately- but FFS at least have the good taste not to be so blatant about it!

Sorry that you have been left with a sour taste after all of your and other people's efforts, Jimmy. Not on at all.

[White trash]

It should be said that we were given a reason for this spur of the moment rule change. Apparently it was based on safety.

So it's fine for the rest of us to be stuck in the middle of forty bikes fighting for position in a very narrow turn one but not American riders?

[GIXser]

as discussed Jimmy, this definately needs to go further, ie a formal protest,possibly a consensus from other riders for next years event if something like this would happen again, there will be a strike, !(would be good to get some commonality regarding this for Paeroa in case a similar incident happens there (that wouldnt surprise me)
anyways start the process....

[Rashika]

complain, complain, complain. Get all the riders together and write a letter showing your unhappiness with the situation.
Nothing may happen, but then again something might.

Nelson st race (this past year in Jan) was a disaster for the bucket racers for a number of reasons, some concerning safety but all were due to crap organisation. We wrote a letter in Jan, got a response in November (only cos we chased em up in Oct at Greymouth).
End result, they have 5 entries in the class for jan next year, rather than the 15 or more last year. Everyone decided they didtn't want the same crap and as the letter was ignored, most unfortunately made other plans.
I personally would like to race at nelson again, but until they prove themselves to the racers, I guess most of us wont be going back.
Yes we know they may just drop the class but thats life. They want all motards there anyway, so I guess let em. Personally, tho I like motards, a whole day of em is kinda boring. And until they do a Greymouth offroad bit in a st circuit, motards are just another roadbike, and not that interesting to watch.

So yes, complain... thats all you can do now, and personally I think it sucks that you guys put so much effort into getting things sussed without the big money, only to have someone with it walk to the front.

[Tonka]

....but I can't help thinking the sport would be far better off if there was a more level playing field.

I just remembered something...cant have the amateurs (privateers) outdoing the pro's!

[jazbug5]

It should be said that we were given a reason for this spur of the moment rule change. Apparently it was based on safety.

So it's fine for the rest of us to be stuck in the middle of forty bikes fighting for position in a very narrow turn one but not American riders?

Ha!

I recently came up with the 'Health And Safety Theory' when explaining some similar bollocks to my 14 year old neice. Essentially, when Officialdom wishes to worm its way out of, or explain away any decision (no matter how patently ludicrous it is) all that is needed is the simple repetition of the all-conquering mantra: 'Health And Safety'.
It has now become a family catch phrase.

E.g. "It's your turn to do the washing up."
"Health and Safety."
etc.

Tossers.

[Nasty]

Absolute bollucks .... how is it safe for you to go out and not other riders ... its pathetic laziness not wanting to change the tires ... or just thinking they are better than others ... I can't see any safety aspect to letting some go out and not notifying the rule change before the qualifying session real bad karma.

[White trash]

I just remembered something...cant have the amateurs (privateers) outdoing the pro's!

It's not so much that we'd outdo the "pros", those guys were faster on a dry track, no doubt about it. Craig for example (and he qualifyed just like the rest of us) could win off the back on a BMX I reckon. He's just so quick there. I just feel that you should start from where you qualify, and have to fight your way through, just like everyone else.

It's like, had I not ridden the session, then gone to the organiser and said "Hey, I don't like the rain so I didn't ride but I'm actually semi quick. Can I start from the second row please?" Get laughed outta the place.

[James Deuce]

Bloody typical. Nothing's changed since the early '90s.

The race rules must have been written by Helen Clark and enforced by Trevor Mallard.

[NUTBAR]

That is an absolute crock of shit!

different point of view?

[James Deuce]

different point of view?

You're going to need to explain that, or are you just trying to start a nice flame war?

[Quasievil]

Mate thats not On, by the organisers breaking their own rules makes a complete asrse of themselves and the event itself, you need to write a formal complaint to MNZ and get it soughted otherwise it will happen again and again.
Factory riders should not get preferred treatment over any one else either, especially on the grid, thats again makes a complete arse of the race lineup

[White trash]

Even if they hada' said at the briefing, "Hey, the weather's changable, we're gonna combine your times" so at least we could have all made the most of a partially dry first practice. Changing the rules AFTER the fact with NO CONSULTATION is simple not right in my mind.