Nelson Port Races 2008

[dangerous]

hahaha.. you beat tea bag?

pitty about the buckets class... but they were given a chance, hopfully next year.

Whats the deal wit the SV650's being kicked out of F3?

[TonyB]

hahaha.. you beat tea bag?

Beat Tea Bag? Shit no- he wasn't going to race it in buckets, as buckets WERE combined with post classics. He was gonna take it out in F3 but the chain shit itself.

pitty about the buckets class... but they were given a chance, hopfully next year.

I have a feeling that the fact that only 2 showed up won't have done buckets any favours. Not having a dig at anyone, but it could well give them a reason to leave them out next year. The pits were absolutely chokka full- I can't see them needing any more entries. Not sure where the local buckets were?
EDIT: the Post Classics grid looked a bloody sad sight without you lot there!

Whats the deal wit the SV650's being kicked out of F3?

Can't say I noticed that- I know I raced against some, but can't remember if it was in F2 or F3. The F3 field was pretty big, so I would've thought they were there...then again, I don't recall seeing any on the F3 grid.

[dangerous]

I have a feeling that the fact that only 2 showed up won't have done buckets any favours. Not having a dig at anyone, but it could well give them a reason to leave them out next year.

Well, I have the powers, hehe... well if thats the case so be it, pitty but thats how she blows, fuck em they know we race post classics aswell.

TONY: you seen this http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...67#post1363067

[TonyB]

Well, I have the powers, hehe... well if thats the case so be it, pitty but thats how she blows, fuck em they know we race post classics aswell.

Have a talk to DP- from what I understand they were put under a lot of pressure not to put the buckets in with Classics.

TONY: you seen this http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...67#post1363067

I'll have a look-see

[dangerous]

Have a talk to DP- from what I understand they were put under a lot of pressure not to put the buckets in with Classics.

Is that cos we carve the old shitters up... funny lot them old buggers.

[TonyB]

Is that cos we carve the old shitters up... funny lot them old buggers.

Maybe it is- those guys put a massive amount of effort and money into what are pretty rare bikes. It must be bloody annoying to have TonyB come past on his POS GP125.

[bell]

Thanks for a good days' racing guys (& girls?).
PM me your race number and I'll scan through the pics I have and happily email you what I've got.

[MyGSXF:Me]

Well.. bloody sunburnt (even with the layers of sun cream!!!) but had an awesome day!!! Tony's posts have summed the events of the day up well, so not much else to add.. (good to catch up Tony & co! )

other than.. at the prize giving/meal/drinkies, afterwards.. EVERY rider who won a trophy, ALL added what an awesome day they had had & how very well the event was organised!!! & that they would definitely be back next year!!!!

soooo... maybe some on here just need to bitch less & RIDE more!!!!

& as Tony said "I have a feeling that the fact that only 2 showed up won't have done buckets any favours. Not having a dig at anyone, but it could well give them a reason to leave them out next year"

wanders off to find aloe vera now....

[TonyB]

other than.. at the prize giving/meal/drinkies, afterwards.. EVERY rider who won a trophy, ALL added what an awesome day they had had & how very well the event was organised!!! & that they would definitely be back next year!!!!

Can't say fairer than that! I'll definitely be back. I wasn't there last year so can't comment, but I guess they must have made a big improvement this year.

So....did they hand out a trophy for Buckets? Hope not- there were only two of us, so I'd feel like a right nob getting one

[Rashika]

soooo... maybe some on here just need to bitch less & RIDE more!!!!

& as Tony said "I have a feeling that the fact that only 2 showed up won't have done buckets any favours. Not having a dig at anyone, but it could well give them a reason to leave them out next year"

wanders off to find aloe vera now....

Hate to disagree but...
• If you had almost been run down by a so-called safety car you'd be pretty concerned about it happening again, and that didn't sound like it had changed this year.
• If you spent lots of time and money getting bikes up there only to end up having one race on it (cos they combined races as you sat on the dummy grid with another class) for your $80 I think you'd be pissed off.
•If you'd not been able to hold onto your Title due to the above reason , you'd be rope-able
• If you seen other classes get 5 races when you had one, you'd be pissed off
• If you seen the lack of info supplied at the so-called riders briefing, even to the extent they didn't even tell riders how to enter back into the pits so riders were going to and fro down the same road, THAT is dangerous.
• Not to mention sending a letter of complaint abut the issues by the entire bucket club in January, with the nelson crew not bothereing to even reply until we baggered them in october at greymouth racing about it. And then getting a letter back that had a whole lot of incorrect info in it, they hadn't really addressed the issues we had complaints about.

There was a whole heap of reasons that went into most of the bucket guys not going: getting barely anything for your money was only one, a lot of safety concerns being another.
If I had gone up there after being told by them (and them taking my money) that there were 2 classes only to find out they combined both of my bikes into one class, i prob would have demanded my money back and left.

But anyway, as a spectator you dont get to see all the bullshit underneath , the crap going down over the wanganui races says it all really, all you see is the guys on the track.
As a racer you want to race, get reasonable value for money, and have fun, and yeah try to win if you are skilled enough. Having all the bull going down spoils it all, and aint worth getting annoyed over, so better to simply not go.
Yes Tony they may very well not have buckets anymore, altho why have classics either, theres bugger all of them. Wonder why the nelson crew didn't go tho? Mind you they haven't done any BEARS meets this year either.

Having said that I might very well have had a chance of getting a good place this year, seeing as you got first!

[TonyB]

Just remember that was last year- "It was a yeeeaaar ago Rashika, let it go".

They fixed the safety car hassles this year. This year the Safety Car sat in the street where you gather after the race had finished. Once the track was delclared clear, it took off and did a lap. Once it had come past the dummy grid exit, they let the bikes out. The bikes then did a full lap, following a fair distance behind the Safety Car. The Safety Car didn't complete that lap, but pulled back into the street where you gather after the race had finished. Once we were parked up on the grid, the Safety car pulled back out of the street where you gather after the race had finished, and pulled in behind us. I'm picking that this must be different to what happened last year, because even if they DID let a rider out late, there was no way they could end up in front of the safety car as it hooned around.

So it would appear that they did listen to your concerns, they just didn't tell you they had.

As for the Buckets thing, like I said elsewhere, as I understand it they were put under a lot of pressure to not combine them with Classics. Post Classics are the next slowest class (though at this meet the two fast ones were not too different to F3), so it made sense to put them in there. If they were to do it again, if I were you I'd just leave the Bucket at home and run Elsie in F3. The others could run in F2 and shouldn't get lapped. I'm picking that the organisers of the Greymouth Street Races will also be put under some pressure not to let the buckets race with the Classics this year. It will be interesting to see.

[dangerous]

soooo... maybe some on here just need to bitch less & RIDE more!!!!

Pull ya head out of ya bottom... see here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...21#post1363621 for a reply to your spectators point of view NOT the racers.

1 example... why the hell would we go if both of our classes are ran in the same race, remember we pay GOOD money to race.

sounds to me like you would sooner read about us in hospital rather than trying to sort a beter race meet.

[dangerous]

Just remember that was last year- "It was a yeeeaaar ago Rashika, let it go".

dont tell me you dont get it either fuck sake, as club Pres I have been dealing with the Nelson club all year... finely after ELEVEN months we get a reply... and reading through it fark all was going to change... so why would we tony... or do we keep racing till there s a death and think to our selves... maybe, just maybe we should have said something

And for shits sake... the silly car is only ONE problem that was had last year

[steve74]

I'm picking that the organisers of the Greymouth Street Races will also be put under some pressure not to let the buckets race with the Classics this year. It will be interesting to see.

I assure you, we are under no pressure, if those classic boys dont come up with some more numbers they will be the ones getting the short end of the stick.

The grey street race was originally started as a classic event and its essential that those boys remain a part of the event. its an age old argument that we have all heard a thousand times regarding mixing classic and buckets, but its just simple ecconomics when it comes to the efficant flow of the event. With a max grid of 35 bikes allowed by MNZ, it makes sence to mix 8 classics with 10 buckets. The best thing for us would be 20 buckets and 20 classics in their own class, but numbers in both seem to be falling.

Mind you? why you would put buckets in post classic is a mystery to me??

[TonyB]

dont tell me you dont get it either

No I don't get it because I wasn't there last year, so I try not to comment on it. YOU weren't there this year, so maybe you should take my word for it- it was very well run. Yes the Safety Car was way too fast, but Steve74 has given a possible reason for this based on his experience. But they had sorted the other issues- it was not possible to be run down by it. Aside from the weirdness with the SV650's, (which obviously wasn't an isolated event), and the tar melting which is completely beyond their control, (it was melting in the shade under DP's shade-thingy), everything went very very well.

To be honest I think they shot themselves in the foot with the Post Classics/Buckets combo, as they had a small field of Classics, a pathetic feild of Post Classics, and only 2 buckets. If they had left things the way they were they might have ended up with 20 odd buckets and heaps of Post Classics. Hopefully they'll re-think it.....mind you, there was no room in the pits as it was...which brings me to a possible area for improvement...

....Have the pits roped off and available for COMPETITORS/ORGANISERS VEHICLES ONLY. Supply each entry with a sticker to put on their vehicle, and don't allow anyone in there that doesn't have a sticker. Again this year, a fair few random cars and bikes turned up and parked in the pits, alongside the dummy grid etc. Keep the buggers out!!