Yeah could be an option if the neighbours are close by, unlike in Auckland neighbours out in the country are far, few hundred meters if that's the case it will not work. Ethernet will drop out.Originally Posted by Winter
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Yeah could be an option if the neighbours are close by, unlike in Auckland neighbours out in the country are far, few hundred meters if that's the case it will not work. Ethernet will drop out.
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Get some glass. Or a cheapo wireless link. or a buzzer and learn morse code.
But yeah, how about telecom just supplies you a half-decent product in the first place, like every other country in the world. Wankers.. (telescum)
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Bro...you are lucky to get ADSL broadband ruraly in NZ full stop!!
I am very very aware of the shitty services you get as a rural customer...and its all most tuff shit as far as telecom are concerned from my experience of years living in buttfuckholenowhere... couple things I learnt... Dynalink modems are the tool!!! especially if you can aquire a rural version. second...if you can log on count your self lucky!!
and yes i gave up whiging years ago...was pointless...and I would have loved to have had the connection speeds you have discribed your getting... in the wairarapa I was getting 6-8 kbps..ping times to the server where as long as a commercial break at times..etc..but I knew there were worse connections out there via stories from other farmers.
One thing you could look at doing is setting up a local area wireless broadband service...there are some specialist companys that do it...and if you get some neighbours to sign up too..it could cut the costs of the set up and maintainence..
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Not really you've hardly got any understanding of how it works if you're making that statement. Rural broadband and broadband in town are different. ADSL technology is the SAME no matter what country you're in. If distance is taken into account then it starts to affect performance. ADSL will not work properly over a certain distance or if the noise levels are high unfortunately.
And why would Telecom do something stupid like that? They're in a business as well and there's a good reason why it's one of New Zealand's most successful business. (Besides the industry type they're in). Why would they commission a $50,000 equipment and have two customers sitting on it paying only a few hundred/thousand dollars a year downloading porn.
Defies logic really, simple business practices, that's why some rural customers don't get good service. Where volume and concentration is high there's room to make money which is where most other Telco's/ISP's focus on.
If that wasn't the case then they would been saviours and invested in rural but hardly any companies want to do that but Telecom does. After unbundling it's going to be worse.
God bless the villagers who are complaining now and blaming everything on Telecom, they'll get shit when the rest of the country moves forward.
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Poo's is right on the money 100% correct.
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Mate, if his neighbour can get 7.2, and he gets .6 ( or whatever the numbers were) than telecom can do alot better without having to build a new $50,000 dslam cabinet at the end of his driveway.
Sure, the problem with DSL is the same in every country. The last mile. DSL is last mile technology.
Difference is, other country's use it as such. TCNZ use it as a 'last 5miles' technology.
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You still haven't developed understanding and appreciation of the problem at all. It doesn't work that way. "My neighbours can get I can't".
And again where did he state how far the neighbours are from him, you're assuming they are close by? Unlike in Auckland where you and I live neighbours aren't 20 meters apart, they are 2 Km apart in the country.
So you cannot say he can get it I can't because his neighbours are connected to a different exchange/cabinet and he's on a different one, on which service isn't great.
Re read his and my posts again, he cannot switch cabinets/exchanges because ports aren't available.
ADSL has limitations and will not work properly over certain distance therefore connection is only limited to people within a certain range and that's exactly how it works in every single country in the world.
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Exactly - TCNZ wont do anything about the fact their DSLAMs are at capacity. When really, a small investment of a few thousand dollars to put another 12 port dlsam in the closer exchange would solve this customers problem, and other other customers happening to want a new dsl line in his area.
Sure. Good spotting buddy. So, it wont work cuz hes too far from exchange B, so move him to exchange A, which is closer. install dlsam for him if they are at capacity already.
Everyone wins.
Feel for you buddy!
Sorry mynameis, this is boring me now.
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Sorry you got it wrong again mate, you just don't have a good understanding of how it works. It's not a matter of chuck some ports in and it's all fine.
Think think and think some more. Do you think if it was that simple and easy they wouldn't have done it by now? I mean the company is dedicated to it's rural customers and each year they pump in more into rural network than any other Telco out there and the amount they themselves invest from previous years.
It's not just a matter of installing DSLAMS and bingo, these equipment run at certain capacity and will only handle certain amount of traffic, voice/data.
Where investment is too large and return is bugger all then you get to a stalemate like his case. And as cowpoos said it's just basically tough shit and a wait and see game.
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First post i said they were 200m further from the exchange than I. Both the exchanges in question are pretty much due East from my house and the neighbor I mention is pretty much due West. My neighbors in every direction get WAY better broadband than I.
Were I away out in the sticks and miles from DSL equipment then I would shut my trap but the fact of the matter is that they've been feeding me a lot of blatant lies for months and generally just pissing me about. So long as they keep this up then I'll keep calling up "faults" until they get it sorted. From the amount of Transco guys they've had out here I'm pretty sure they would have been cheaper just putting in a decent bloody phone line like I requested in the first place. It's not just my ADSL, the quality of my voice calls are truly shocking.
As for Telecom investing more in the network than anyone else...well it's a case of big fish, small pond. They're not pumping money into the rural network out of choice. Have you seen the charges for wireless, mobile (where it's available) or satellite data...moo.
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Right now we're talking apples and pears, first the distance your neighbours are from the exchange and the distance your neighbours are from you. (As you've quoted from my post).
Yeah continue calling up faults and the only thing you'll achieve is frustrating yourself and no one else. Not gonna get anywhere that way mate.
You need to do what I outlined in my posts earlier, trust me on this one
Yeah wireless is $700 install with Xtra and $60 a month for 1 Gb, if you can get mobile broadband then it would be $199 for device and $50 a month for 1 Gb, Satellite Telecom don't do. Baycity (Farmside) does and it's $199 install and $100 for 1 Gb.
Do your maths and you'll know which one is the best option.
As for investment lets not moan about it when things will be changing in the next few months then you'll see how many interested parties are out there wanting to invest in rural
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Umm...I've managed to get a central splitter and I can sometimes make an actual voice call through this process.
The weird thing is that when I first moved to this house I'd regularly hook up at about 1Mbps and it would drop to about 600Kbps. Now it hooks up at 2 or 300 and drops to 64 or disconnects completely.
Kinda just the same as your advice about keep hassling them as to when my "port" will be free. My thoughts on this were that there must be someone at Telecom who's counting the beans on how many times they've had to pay Transco to come out and tell me exactly what you guys have told me. I was just hoping there was a "better" way.
I know for sure I'm connected to the exchange in Te Aroha (6.2Km away) and I'm 99% sure there's a brand new exchange in Waihou (200m ish away) and it can only have been installed there this month (last Transco guy who was out checked the new building it was in and there was no DSL equipment in there at the time). Must be a new exchange there, the neighbour I hooked up got 7.5Mbps and that would make sense if they were just 400m from that exchange.
Basically the battle is now down to them putting me onto the exchange that's a stone's throw away from my house.
My next battle will be for Vodyphone to bung a cell tower in the area
Rude pricing eh. It p!sses off a lot of my customers. I can't understand why Telecom don't just add 5 bucks a month, sign them up to a 3 year contract and reduce the install fee to $199. Farmside customer service is superb but then again it should be with their pricing. ICONZ sometimes do special install deals (depends on how many jobs their engineers can get in a specific area). I wish the Kiwi government were as englightened as the Ozzie gov when it comes to subsidising rural communities broadband. They practically give away satellite connections over there.
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Do you actually want to try and pause the other two computers downloading porn and then try a speed test on the third one. And let us know how you went.
Unfortunately in a large organisation like Telecom those things take time and by then you would have frustrated your nuts out and given up.
Shouldn't be too hard to do, really, seriously.
3 year contracts don't work farmside tried and failed. Too long a commitment for some. A lot of farmers move every 2 years.
My next battle will be for Vodyphone to bung a cell tower in the area
Rude pricing eh. It p!sses off a lot of my customers. I can't understand why Telecom don't just add 5 bucks a month, sign them up to a 3 year contract and reduce the install fee to $199. Farmside customer service is superb but then again it should be with their pricing. ICONZ sometimes do special install deals (depends on how many jobs their engineers can get in a specific area). I wish the Kiwi government were as englightened as the Ozzie gov when it comes to subsidising rural communities broadband. They practically give away satellite connections over there.
I think the Kiwi government knows how much those farmers earn, maybe that's one of the factors they looked into when working out subsidies.
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You're joking arent you? Have you seen the price of land and interest rates? There'll be a few of them committing suicide if this drought continues. The larger farms have not so wealthy "workers" on them too that also want broadband.
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Still farkin nowhere with this.
iHug are telling me I need to change my phone number to fix the broadband issue. I've told them (again) that this isn't an option as it's used for my home based business. I've suggested paying for another phone number and having the first one diverting to the second (similar to Telecom's Dual Number service). They're telling me this isn't an option and the only way I can keep my existing number is to pay for another phone line (about $1200) to my house?
I'm getting VERY frustrated.
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