Security issue

[Mikkel]

Get comprehensive insurance cover...

Let's face it, if they want the bloody bike they'll take it!

I'm sure there's a power outlet in your garage and an angle grinder doesn't weigh that much... or whatever they might bring along.

In the end, if they're desperate enough to get it and it's secure enough you'll just wake up with a knife to your throat and then they won't even need the power tools.

[1200custom]

I am taking delivery of a new Harley-Davidson Fat Bob in a month or two.
I would like to secure it to the concrete floor of my garage with a chain when it is at home.
Has anyone done this?
What did you use for the anchor?
What firm did you use?

Thank you.

hi yep i just have a ubolt drilled/screwed in the concrete floor in the garage, then just a heavy duty lock from that to the frame, its not going to do much if they have all the right tools and are organised but then again nothing will, its just there to stop the un-organised theives

[TrooperHarley]

Thanks for all the great advice. I have just ordered a heavy chain which will secure the bike to the garage, and I intend buying an alarmed Xena disc lock (if I can find a seller that offers the XN15 model) and a lighter wire cable for use away from home. That, plus insurance, is about all I can do - as many of you have rightly said, if that isn't enough, nothing will be. My bike arrives this week. I can't wait!

[1200custom]

Thanks for all the great advice. I have just ordered a heavy chain which will secure the bike to the garage, and I intend buying an alarmed Xena disc lock (if I can find a seller that offers the XN15 model) and a lighter wire cable for use away from home. That, plus insurance, is about all I can do - as many of you have rightly said, if that isn't enough, nothing will be. My bike arrives this week. I can't wait!

yea and if you do to much is too impracticle, as long as you have insurance youll be sweet, good luck with your new ride

[turtleman]

Thanks for all the great advice. I have just ordered a heavy chain which will secure the bike to the garage, and I intend buying an alarmed Xena disc lock (if I can find a seller that offers the XN15 model) and a lighter wire cable for use away from home. That, plus insurance, is about all I can do - as many of you have rightly said, if that isn't enough, nothing will be. My bike arrives this week. I can't wait!

Xena XN15 here:
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/content...l&entryPK=1076

[TrooperHarley]

Xena XN15 here:
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/content...l&entryPK=1076

Thanks. They have none in stock though.

[Radar]

Thanks for all the great advice. I have just ordered a heavy chain which will secure the bike to the garage,

Don't use a chain - they can be cut quickly using bolt cutters. As others have said, dynabolt a U-bracket (made for this purpose - some MC shops will have this) to the concrete floor. On top of the dynabolts place a strip of steel - if necessary - so the bolts cannot be unscrewed. Then secure the bike with a U shape steel rod lock.

Yes, very determined thieves will crack anything, but deterrence is the key here. If it looks too difficult, there is a greater probability they will go elsewhere. A locked gate across the driveway may be the best deterrent - unless you live on a quiet street or rural area.

And when not garaging it, don't leave your bike on your property where everyone who passes will see it.

[CookMySock]

Don't use a chain - they can be cut quickly using bolt cutters.

Wrong chain. You need a transport-quality high-tensile chain - that will make their hacksaw squeal.. only an angle grinder will remove that, and an angle grinder makes an awesome alarm-like sound.

DB

[Radar]

Wrong chain. You need a transport-quality high-tensile chain - that will make their hacksaw squeal.. only an angle grinder will remove that, and an angle grinder makes an awesome alarm-like sound.

DB

I have seen what must be high tensile chain at bike shops - they are with lock and textile cover. Can you buy high tensile chain elsewhere, at any length?

[CookMySock]

Can you buy high tensile chain elsewhere, at any length?

yes, try engineering shops viz "Bay engineers supplies". Tell them its for tying "really big" things down on logging trucks etc.

DB

[MaxB]

+1 for the if they want badly enough they will get it crowd.

Have you considered cameras? Maybe for later. For the price of a builder and shackle system you can get a pretty flash set up that is linked to an alarm.

A friend of ours was sick of break ins to her business. The shop was secure like a prison but they still kept coming back for more. They had heaps of (stolen) tools which they left behind. She put in cameras and the one that got them was the street frontage unit that caught 3 guys putting on balaklavas plain as day. The crims were recognised and got prison time and in a deal she got most of her gear back.

Compare to a local truckie who chained his Harley in a pit and parked his tractor unit over it and another in front of the roller doors. They put that expanding spray foam into the alarm horns and paid a crim truckie to steal the trucks and park them on an industrial estate. Then they backed up to the roller doors and had all the time in the world to get the bike into their truck. The neighbours just thought it was the owner moving his trucks about.
We only found out how they did it years later when they caught one of the gang in a drugs bust. That is how far scumbags will go to get something of yours.

[BOGAR]

Here's a pic of a ABUS set up I tested and wrote an article for BRM for.

I liked the way it worked; they even supply ball bearings to wack in to the allen key heads once secure, so they can't try to disassemble it.

Hope it's helpful.

I use the same system and find it good. Need to put it hard to get at but still in reach for yourself place. I then went to Bunnings and bought the biggest strongest chain and highest security lock that i could $260 all up for the lot.
Nothing is perfect (maybe the dog idea is) but it will sure slow the Bstd's down. i also have a front disk lock and am planning to get a pager alarm system and a video surveillance system when i get the money.

[jim.cox]

I think this would be a good addition for a new Hardley

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics...692566.htm?p=2

I'm looking at putting one on my Ducati

[The Pastor]

A good CCTV setup would be a good idea.

If you trust your neighbours, tell them when you are going away, so that they actually react to your alarms.

Best protection agaisnt thieves - insurance.

[Steam]

This is all way too much trouble.
Even if I had the money to buy a fantastic shiny Harley, the stress of worrying about it and trying to keep it secure would far outweigh the pleasure of owning it.

I've never really thought about it before... but I think I believe that I shouldn't own things I am not prepared to lose. Hmm... interesting.
That requires further thought.