650 pro twins...

**Shaun** · 6th March 2008, 10:39

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

I ''included you'' when I used that insane word!

Thanks Darling

**skypig** · 6th March 2008, 11:24

Were are the rules I have been trying to find them
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Ivan Juggins:

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...50_ProTwin.pdf

Does that help ?

SP

**FROSTY:Me** · 6th March 2008, 11:26

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

You just concentrate on winning that title this weekend! Everything will be blue again soon, thats wonderful.

Sorry to tell ya robert but more likely itll be green and pink

**Robert Taylor** · 6th March 2008, 21:09

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Sorry to tell ya robert but more likely itll be green and pink

Im sure you like winding up my tory sentiments Frosty! Mate, if that discarded extra from the rocky horror show gets another term we are knackered....

**Keystone19** · 6th March 2008, 21:21

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

You just concentrate on winning that title this weekend! Everything will be blue again soon, thats wonderful.

Hahahahahhahahahahahahaha...you are dreaming (again).

**svr** · 7th March 2008, 11:49

Originally Posted by skypig

Were are the rules I have been trying to find them
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Ivan Juggins:

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...50_ProTwin.pdf

Does that help ?

SP

So many rules! You have to remove lights, indicators, grab rail, modify chain guard, number-plate holder, passenger pegs etc.... Whats the problem with duct-tape anyway?
Cookie

**speedpro** · 7th March 2008, 12:36

Originally Posted by skypig

Were are the rules I have been trying to find them
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Ivan Juggins:

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...50_ProTwin.pdf

Does that help ?

SP

That is the most poorly worded set of rules I have ever read. The english makes no sense let alone the actual rules they are trying to put into words.

**steve74** · 7th March 2008, 17:03

Originally Posted by t3mp0r4ry nzr

I really respect your point of view Frosty from your experience. I too agree that power commanders, full exhaust sysyems and full f/g fairings were the wrong alley to go up and unneccessarily increases the cost of building a p/twin by a couple of grand BUT we have to look forward and not back.

I was at the MNZ AGM last year and attended the Road race Workshop. I too am looking at a pro twin and was pretty gutted when i heard paul stewart announced the rules for pro twins. Full exhaust systems and power comanders and suspension mods just seemed to hike up the cost as far as i was concerned but he justified each of the mods and i am comfortable with the rules.
1.
Full fairings had to be allowed as some manufactures bikes have them as standard and some dont, giving those produced with a fairing an aerodynamic advantage.
2.
Power commanders had to be used as carb models can be tuned and EFI models cant, therefore the older machines without EFI would be at an advantage.
3.
aftermarket rear shocks are allowed as tyre wear on production tyres with standard suspension is dodgie. (something learned from production superbike days)

so i can see both sides of the coin. I cant wait to go protwin racing, just cant find a 2003+ sv650 model for sale her in the south island!!!

**johnsv650** · 7th March 2008, 17:06

hi, there was a er6 for $2600 a couple of weeks ago, forks were only slighty bent, good buy that one......watch turners and trademe

**FROSTY:Me** · 7th March 2008, 17:16

Originally Posted by steve74

I was at the MNZ AGM last year and attended the Road race Workshop. I too am looking at a pro twin and was pretty gutted when i heard paul announce the rules for pro twins. Full exhaust systems and power comanders and suspension mods just seemed to hike up the cost as far as i was concerned but he justified each of the mods.
1.
Full fairings had to be allowed as some manufactures bikes have them as standard and some dont, giving those produced with a fairing an aerodynamic advantage.
2.
Power commanders had to be used as carb models can be tuned and EFI models cant, therefore the older machines without EFI would be at an advantage.
3.
aftermarket rear shocks are allowed as tyre wear on production tyres with standard suspension is dodgie. (something learned from production superbike days)

so i can see both sides of the coin. I cant wait to go protwin racing, just cant find a 2003+ model for sale her in the south island!!!

And theres the stupidity of it
1) EVERY pro twins eligable bike has a faired version--er6,sv650,hyusung---barr 1 the raptor--big deal--how many raptors are racing pro twins??
2)they should have checked the HP figues first. Carbed SV's without the majic cam swap or a barrel skim aint putting out the HP the factory injected models do -70hp WITH pipe and cam etc
3)I concede that BUT they could have introduced control shocks Im sure eg a base level ohlins or penske

**steve74** · 7th March 2008, 17:25

agreed frosty, a controll shock would put a cap on things. as robert explained earlier, you could spend up to $17,000 on your suspension if you like. i would just rather race on a safe $1600 shock than a dodgie standard one. by the time you try set up a gsxr shock to fit you might as well go ohlins/penske etc, etc.

Originally Posted by HELLRAISER

- Now i was planning on racing in Pro Twins this year on an Aprilia SXV5.5 now as far as i am aware and have been told there is nothing stopping me from doing so

i think you will find there is the max 900mm handle bar height as well as a "no off road derived frame" rule. we had to look at this long and hard for our greymouth street race last year. Nothing to stop you putting it in another chassis i guess.