Sucky sucky broadband

[mynameis]

Ok, I give up. If the thread starter, or anyone else, would like some help to shoot a 20 fucking kilometer wireless link I'll be glad to help, but this "Helloooo?" bullshit is getting up my arse. Laters.

DB

If you come up with some concrete answers people will take you seriously.

You may know a bit but one sentence answers hardly cut it. It's called Communication.

Don't spit the dummy, I am just feeling a little bit gay this morning

[mynameis]

Ok, I give up. If the thread starter, or anyone else, would like some help to shoot a 20 fucking kilometer wireless link I'll be glad to help, but this "Helloooo?" bullshit is getting up my arse. Laters.

DB

Dear Dangerous Bastard Sir,

Please fill us in with this product which will allow a wireless relay link of up to 20 Km. Pretty please, don't get soo grumpy.

Do you have a website?

Lot's of Love,

mynameis

[scracha]

I have switched to another provider?

You've chosen a lifestyle and unfortunately you won't have all the luxuries.

No offence mate but I ASKED TELECOM PRIOR TO MOVING as to whether I'd get broadband. It is important for my business so I did everything correctly and checked first.


20Km wifi links. I'm VERY interested. I was chuffed I hooked up a customer to their workshop 600m away but 20Km is impressive.

[mynameis]

I have switched to another provider?


No offence mate but I ASKED TELECOM PRIOR TO MOVING as to whether I'd get broadband. It is important for my business so I did everything correctly and checked first.


20Km wifi links. I'm VERY interested. I was chuffed I hooked up a customer to their workshop 600m away but 20Km is impressive.

HTFU scracha, you asked if ADSL was available and they said yes. And it is available, Telecom does not guarantee any speeds on their ADSL connection. Maybe you should have read the terms and conditions properly as well.

If Dangerous Bastard can setup something like he's claiming then your best option is to grab his balls. (Really tight).

[CookMySock]

20Km wifi links. I'm VERY interested. I was chuffed I hooked up a customer to their workshop 600m away but 20Km is impressive.

Yeh its perfectly straight forward. No rocket science. Needs to be line-of-sight though, or your range is wayy down. Join the KB chatroom and we can hammer it out.

mynameis, there isn't one product - the higher-end 802.11A/G Atheros et al cards will do it, plus high-gain (19-30dBi) external antennas, and ur away laughin. There are a whole range of little black boxes to do this, most of them have a web interface and under 300bux - two of them required plus antennas, under a grand ish all up for a hardcore 10-20km link, or half that for a cheapo 2km link. And quit pounding my ass kthx.

DB

[mynameis]

Yeh its perfectly straight forward. No rocket science. Needs to be line-of-sight though, or your range is wayy down. Join the KB chatroom and we can hammer it out.

mynameis, there isn't one product - the higher-end 802.11A/G Atheros et al cards will do it, plus high-gain (19-30dBi) external antennas, and ur away laughin. There are a whole range of little black boxes to do this, most of them have a web interface and under 300bux - two of them required plus antennas, under a grand ish all up for a hardcore 10-20km link, or half that for a cheapo 2km link. And quit pounding my ass kthx.

DB

Dude just a quick question? Is this through BCL/Kordia ? And what, do you get voice and data as well ? What's the voice quality like ? What gear do you use ?

[Winter]

20km is very achieveable in half a day with standard wifi gear.

My best - 14KM across Auckland. Stop ignoring dangerous bastard, hes trying to help.

[mynameis]

Stop ignoring dangerous bastard, hes trying to help.

Assuming, makes an ASS of YOU and ME.

[CookMySock]

Dude just a quick question? Is this through BCL/Kordia ? And what, do you get voice and data as well ? What's the voice quality like ? What gear do you use ?

no no, its just a wireless data link that you own yourself, like a cable but without the cable. One end you plug into something that has Internet, the other end you plug into your gear way out in the ding-dong. The end with the Internet can be ANY favourable location to you, like ur parents house in town, ur gf's house, or anywhere..

It's a long wire thats not a wire, it flies through the air, and you own both ends. It needs to be line-of-sight for any distance over a few kilometers. Altitude is your friend. You can put a repeater on a hill top also, and then LOTS of people can share the wire and you can charge them for it - they just need an antenna and a little radio box, 4-500bux ish.

So you have to have some place that has Internet first so you can put your first antenna there, then you add other antennas to talk to the first one to get internet from it, or else add a repeater on a hilltop for everyone to connect to.

Kinda struggling to explain this in a non-tech way. It sounds simple sorta, and it is, but there are many gotchas for the non-tech folks.

I build these things for farmers and other folks who never have a hope of getting broadband, and want to own their own infrastructure, or lease a working system that they don't have to worry about. It's good fun.

edit: I use mostly prism2, atheros, mikrotik, senao.

DB

[CookMySock]

20km is very achieveable in half a day with standard wifi gear.

cheapo consumer gear is a recipe for disaster though. It might work, but over time it will flap like hell. Spend just a little bit more and it will be solid as a cock 24/7, like mine is.

My best - 14KM across Auckland.

It's good fun ay.

DB

[Tank]

mynameis, there isn't one product - the higher-end 802.11A/G Atheros et al cards will do it, plus high-gain (19-30dBi) external antennas, and ur away laughin. There are a whole range of little black boxes to do this, most of them have a web interface and under 300bux - two of them required plus antennas, under a grand ish all up for a hardcore 10-20km link, or half that for a cheapo 2km link. And quit pounding my ass kthx.

DB

'transmitting' on the external antennas - do you need certification or something for that?

[CookMySock]

'transmitting' on the external antennas - do you need certification or something for that?

yes the gear has to be certified, and there are maximum power levels allowed. All gear sold in NZ is certified, just watch the power limit for links that will be up 24/7. 200mW into a 19dBi antenna *just* exceeds the limit. So you can't put a maaaaasive antenna on a powerful transmitter. There is all sorts of other do's and dont's, but not many other things will get you a "take down" order by the MOC.

edit: but you don't have to apply for a license or any crap like that - just put it up and use it.

DB

[Tank]

yes the gear has to be certified, and there are maximum power levels allowed. All gear sold in NZ is certified, just watch the power limit for links that will be up 24/7. 200mW into a 19dBi antenna *just* exceeds the limit. So you can't put a maaaaasive antenna on a powerful transmitter. There is all sorts of other do's and dont's, but not many other things will get you a "take down" order by the MOC.

edit: but you don't have to apply for a license or any crap like that - just put it up and use it.

DB

IF you put up a REALLLLY Big Antenna - and I mean HUGE, and put enough power thru it - do you think you could get that to go international? (p/t)

[mynameis]

no no, its just a wireless data link that you own yourself, like a cable but without the cable. One end you plug into something that has Internet, the other end you plug into your gear way out in the ding-dong. The end with the Internet can be ANY favourable location to you, like ur parents house in town, ur gf's house, or anywhere..

It's a long wire thats not a wire, it flies through the air, and you own both ends. It needs to be line-of-sight for any distance over a few kilometers. Altitude is your friend. You can put a repeater on a hill top also, and then LOTS of people can share the wire and you can charge them for it - they just need an antenna and a little radio box, 4-500bux ish.

So you have to have some place that has Internet first so you can put your first antenna there, then you add other antennas to talk to the first one to get internet from it, or else add a repeater on a hilltop for everyone to connect to.

Kinda struggling to explain this in a non-tech way. It sounds simple sorta, and it is, but there are many gotchas for the non-tech folks.

I build these things for farmers and other folks who never have a hope of getting broadband, and want to own their own infrastructure, or lease a working system that they don't have to worry about. It's good fun.

edit: I use mostly prism2, atheros, mikrotik, senao.

DB

Got ya dude, basically internet sharing. I guess the original connection has to be a decent one for the whole set up to work properly, and not a dog to start off with.

But then again some farmers get 9k connection so it would still be better for them even if users went online simultaneously.

'transmitting' on the external antennas - do you need certification or something for that?

Did you mean radiation compliance certification? Naaah. It's a whole load of baloney anway.

[CookMySock]

IF you put up a REALLLLY Big Antenna - and I mean HUGE, and put enough power thru it - do you think you could get that to go international? (p/t)

yeah maaan you can bounce a signal off teh moooon. Do joo think I'm joking ? lol. I'm not. http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=moonbounce+ghz

DB