Sick and tired of Cullen

[Manxman]

I came across this on the NZ Herald website:

http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/you...u-it/?c_id=466

Mike B (Auckland Central)

"I get the idea that NZ leaders are very closed-minded. They have an opportunity to set NZ up as one of the worlds premium places to live, but cannot see past the issue of reducing tax rates. they are too small minded to see that if they reduce tax rates (like Singapore) then you get a lot of investment - and hence more taxes. It would not even take that much investment to makeup the lost taxes - after all, taxes from 2 million people is not much.

They just don't understand that a smaller slice of a bigger pie is more than a big slice of a small pie."

Cullen is fossilized in his thinking.

Yup, it's called the Laffer Curve...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve. Most lay people would recognise it by the term: Low margin, high volume (a la Pak 'N Save).

[Swoop]

But now that they have Kevin Ruddiculous aka ''The Milky Bar Kid'' running the show over there they will stuff it up over time, mark my words.Hes got the same basic mentality as the Labour people here.

Most definately. Signing up to the Kyoto Taxation scheme was the first bad move.

[cindymay]

If you all read the news paper you would realize that the labour goverment takes all the money from tax and put it back into the comunity where national is keeping it for themselves.


For example would national have bought back a asset like the rail system . NO

Yes Labour puts my money back into the community where it is wasted, after they have feathered their own nests and popular little projects. How does National keep it for themselves - unless you mean they let me keep my own money and I can decide how to spend it.

[Dafe]

Just because I'm bored........

28,000 New Zealanders emigrated to Australia last year.
If %70 were working NZ taxpayers at an average pay of $40K annual.

I estimate we have around 260 million dollars in paid taxes walking out the door to Australia, annually.

$260,000,000.00 - Why don't the government care???

[blossomsowner]

Only for accidents, if your disability is a result of a medical issue(s) then you will be getting nothing at all. I talked to a few in burwood spinal unit in the same boat up shit creek, with no paddle and a bad leak in the hull. ACC is an interesting organisation if you take the time to try to understand it. Ive studied the legislation they work on and its both confusing and makes the organisation work in some really unusual way. They are independant from the govt Ive been lead to believe and the preformers bitching about ACC are usually the ones who are not entitled. Its not ideally set up for some but excellent for many like me or the individuals who are far worse. Before my accident I had never been given anything for free and worked hard for what I had. The thing I appreciate about ACC is they clearly explain who and why the entitlements work for and exactly where "the line in the sand" is when entitlement stops. I know my situation is different than others, but even when I had a month and a half on ACC because a twat smashed me off my bike, ACC still looked after me extremely well and payed for all of my bills related to the accident. ACC is much like the govt really, working for some, but an utter frustration for many. If anyone wants full entitlement from ACC I'm happy to swap bodies, the true problem in there are many out there that want to live off ACC handouts. Its ruined it for the ones who honestly need the help. I was told that I'm the first client to decline a new cellphone and laptop from ACC. I did that because I allready had both. I also saw a few others get them then hock them off, then wonder/complain when ACC was not so forth coming the next time they needed something. If it was not for ACC I would be dead, its something that I will allways appreciate and never abuse.

good on you........great to see someone speaking honestly and demonstrating some personal integrity instead of just trying to bleed the system dry. we can only hope some of your attitude will have a positive efffect on others.

[fridayflash]

heard d/s graeme bell yestday on radio nz,liken cullen to a terminally ill patient
running around with a credit card

[blossomsowner]

seems to me one of the problems nz has is the amount of people doing unproductive jobs. In my mind these are mainly suit wearing types that put obstacles in the way of individuals and businesses. There are whole industries of red tape and bullshit that produce nothing but headaches for people trying to earn a living. Think osh, local councils, main government, kyoto crap, regional authorities.
yes they do some good but far more problems are caused.
And businesses suffer, 4 weeks annual leave, and now the kiwisaver crap. Sure its good for the employees but makes it very hard to run a decent profit margin. Then prices go up (aren't we seeing this already)
costs 20% more to build a house now, and most of this is compliance cost related.

lets cut the red tape out.........buyer beware
lets get rid of osh.........take personal responsibility for your own welfare

must stop now


starting to get excited......................

[Toaster]

and yet the percentage of people earning over $60k is small. Listening to them whine about how poor they are while others earn $25k or suffer job closures and have to live on the dole makes me want to puke.

Try income $60k with rent of $500 a week plus 4 kids and call yourself "rich". I'd say anyone in a position similar to that would be fair to grizzle that they are struggling in the current economic environment.

Dont forget many many people who own a business or three only disclose income of $60k for tax purposes. Tax paid company distributions are not included and they actually earn a far greater sum. Some the "small" percentage you are trying to refer to is not an accurate number at all.

In fact I can think of several wealthy people who are entitled to benefits and/or pay no or little tax at all because they as individuals effectively own nothing and are unemployed despite having tremenous wealth in trusts derived from successful business ventures.... statistics are not all what they seem.

Now about a bucket for you to go puke in....... I'll sell you a plastic warehouse one for $50.

[Tumbles]

What shits me is tht Working for families has basically created an inequality where I pay more tax because I am single and don't want to get married / create screaming shit producers. As a single, white, male, earning +$63,000 I am sick and tired of supporting Samoan familes with 12 kids.

[MSTRS:Me]

Only for accidents, ...etc...

You have been treated very well by ACC. In fact, this is the way that it is supposed to work. There would be no problem if this was how it always is/was for the injured.
However, for self-employed people, it seldom works like your experience. Just look at Shaun's situation. Which would be very typical of the self-employed.
See the difference?

[enigma51]

Yes Labour puts my money back into the community where it is wasted, after they have feathered their own nests and popular little projects. How does National keep it for themselves - unless you mean they let me keep my own money and I can decide how to spend it.

Your selfish for wanting to keep your money for yourself. sis on you!

[Robert Taylor]

seems to me one of the problems nz has is the amount of people doing unproductive jobs. In my mind these are mainly suit wearing types that put obstacles in the way of individuals and businesses. There are whole industries of red tape and bullshit that produce nothing but headaches for people trying to earn a living. Think osh, local councils, main government, kyoto crap, regional authorities.
yes they do some good but far more problems are caused.
And businesses suffer, 4 weeks annual leave, and now the kiwisaver crap. Sure its good for the employees but makes it very hard to run a decent profit margin. Then prices go up (aren't we seeing this already)
costs 20% more to build a house now, and most of this is compliance cost related.

lets cut the red tape out.........buyer beware
lets get rid of osh.........take personal responsibility for your own welfare

must stop now


starting to get excited......................

Youve hit the proverbial nail on the head but for everyone that realises the cold hard reality there are an equal number oblivious to it. Thats sad.

[inlinefour]

You have been treated very well by ACC. In fact, this is the way that it is supposed to work. There would be no problem if this was how it always is/was for the injured.
However, for self-employed people, it seldom works like your experience. Just look at Shaun's situation. Which would be very typical of the self-employed.
See the difference?

The way that ACC works for the self employed can be easily researched and although I agree that its not fair, its all there in black and white. If I was self employed, as I might have been had I completed my masters then I would have made sure I had my own insurance cover because of the problems with ACC. I feel for all those who have been treated less than fairly by ACC, but with any private venture it really pays to do your homework and not hope for the best.

[Whynot]

What shits me is tht Working for families has basically created an inequality where I pay more tax because I am single and don't want to get married / create screaming shit producers. As a single, white, male, earning +$63,000 I am sick and tired of supporting Samoan familes with 12 kids.

here's a solution for ya ....

solution

[Pixie]

Am I alone in this or do other people think M Cullen is sounding like a tired old broken record. "If we give you tax cuts it's just going to mean cutting down government services".

The fact is that in most countries that have offered tax cuts that reward people for working more and increasing productivity have actually seen more money coming in to the government, not less.

Is it so hard to see that a tax policy that stifles, and punishes people for working is actually going to bring less money in than a tax policy that rewards work. If you work more you get slammed with at least a double whammy, you lose "working for families" assistance and you get placed in a higher tax bracket. You may also lose other benefits because of your "high income".

How about a fair tax policy that does not punish people for producing wealth that can go into health care, roads and education.

I also want to see families taxed as a unit so that families where one of the partners decides to forgo payed work to care for children is not slammed into the highest tax bracket at an absurdly low income level if taking care of a whole family is taken into account. It's only fair, but will auntie Helen have a bar of it? No, apparently it does not buy her enough votes...

When pension time come a married couple gets less pension than individuals do. When people are working the fact that one of the partners may be the families sole support is conveniently ignored.

1.Socialist scum hate "Rich Pricks"

2. people on the bones of their arses vote labour