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    WTF National privatising ACC?

    Are they nuts? Was going ta vote for them but definitely won't if they are going to do this. Didn't work last time. Cost me big time as a self-employed last time. Opens the way for the US sueing culture. Encourages discrimiation in work places based on health risks. Will cause injuried to be forced back into work earlier. Bugger that for a joke.
    Who's bright idea in Nat was this?
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    I think they were looking at privatising parts ... not the whole thing. Based on my contact with ACC yesterday morning when I was trying to get some info on their 'Partnership Programme' I could suggest a couple of parts that could benefit from competition. For what it's worth though, I believe that on the whole, ACC do a good job.
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    sounds like you are in a risky industry ? If so, you should pay your way or change your line of work. I pay thousands of dollars a year to ACC and our risks amount to opening cardboard boxes with a box cutter - we are getting ripped off, and I would dearly love to be able to get quotes from insurance companies based on my ACTUAL level of risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatcap View Post
    'Looking at' does not mean 'doing'
    ...and "opening up the sector to competition" does not mean "privatising".
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    pg C1 Dom Post Today re ACC when it was opened to competition last time:

    In the time competition existed employers saved a total of $200 million a year in remiums, the number of claims fell by 40%, deaths by 50% and disputes by 85%

    Sooner the better if you ask me... and add the motor-vehicle account in too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    pg C1 Dom Post Today re ACC when it was opened to competition last time:

    In the time competition existed employers saved a total of $200 million a year in remiums, the number of claims fell by 40%, deaths by 50% and disputes by 85%

    Sooner the better if you ask me... and add the motor-vehicle account in too.
    How would privitisation result in less deaths?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magua View Post
    How would privitisation result in less deaths?
    Not sure - but if you think that when people are in a position to take responsibility for themselves, instead of Nanny imposing it, then there is a case for believing that more care is taken by them what opt to make their own decision.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Not sure - but if you think that when people are in a position to take responsibility for themselves, instead of Nanny imposing it, then there is a case for believing that more care is taken by them what opt to make their own decision.
    and these people are safer to ride with in a group too, because they have natural consequences should they fuck up. Non-insured people are much much more careful than uninsured, and we can easily see how they would be.

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    I wouldn't be sad if ACC got nuked pack of fucking arses.

    mentioned the word compensation to case manager and never heard from him again.

    pack of cunts.

    But making it private would make it even more bottom line driven.

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    ACC is a bloated monster. Giving the option to 'opt out' and use private coverage is a good thing.

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    I would like to know how many "administrators" ACC requires to perform the tasks required. Being a typically bloated, overstaffed and under-braincelled organisation, perhaps privatisation should be investigated.
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    My recent experience is it's hard to imagine the current ACC setup being any more useless for the self-employed.

    Making it a profit centre could maybe do it though.

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    My ACC premiums dropped by 35% when ACC was opened up last time. Funny thing is, as soon as Aunty Helen removed the option of private ACC, my premiums went up again. Go think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    sounds like you are in a risky industry ? If so, you should pay your way or change your line of work. I pay thousands of dollars a year to ACC and our risks amount to opening cardboard boxes with a box cutter - we are getting ripped off, and I would dearly love to be able to get quotes from insurance companies based on my ACTUAL level of risk.

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    I agree, and what is also a real ''irk'' is the amount of ACC payments to sports related injuries. You take the risk, you insure yourself. The country cannot afford this nonsense.

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