To import bike gear or not?

[Stormer]

Just got some new boots from motorcyclegear.co.nz.
Internet ordered late Thursday, on my doorstep Saterday morning.
Could have got them from the States for $130 or so cheaper, but I wanted them, like, NOW, y`know..........?

[Katman]

Who really gives a fuck, if of shore purchases effect the TAX dept of buisness owners, that is a part of being in buisness, finding ways to make your self a better alternative to the Internet.

You're hardly a shining light when it comes to good business acumen.

[Quasievil]

PS, thanks for your nice PM to me on your site.

Sorry dude, that actually wasnt me either that was my Mod

[Robert Taylor]

O you are so nice ROB

If you hadnt been so quick to jump to a conclusion it was a motorcycle dealer that parallell imported 3 new Ohlins dampers, the springing wasnt correct for the customers and the dealer had the temerity to ask if I would swap the springs. Needless to say as the dampers werent purchased through the recognised distributor the springs were offered at the standard purchase price. Nett result it would have been more cost effective to purchase within NZ in the first place.
As the recognised distributor we stock all of the options and backup our sales with a service and warranty infrastructure. Nothing to be ashamed of with that.

[Robert Taylor]

Oh no worries, just in my last sem at uni as an electrical engineer, Oz pays about 10k-20k more per year for salaries, has 5 times more job opportunity (according to seek) and in general - im getting sick of the rain, brissy sounds like an awesome sunny place to ride a bike

but i might just move to New Plymouth if i cant get a job up in oz... already kind of have job offers down there

Best of luck, its a shame our economy and those that manipulate it dont provide a much better standard of living here in this beautiful country.

[Robert Taylor]

Robert T and Quasi evel, how many times and miles have you both driven your officual buisness vehicles on private buisness? That the company fuel card paid for, YEP guys, that is also ripping off the NZ economy, and do not try to say you DO NOT do this.

Absolutely, dont deny it for one second. Its measly ''payback'' when for example you look as an employer at what you are paying in mindless parasitical levies for this and that. If business was all a bed of roses more would survive.

[Shaun]

Im bowing out, cant be bothered arguing about it.

buy whereever you want people, I just think if its in NZ get it here, otherwise no one will bother bringing it in anymore.

have a good one

Shaun dont be a grumpy bugger, I still love you ya big poof head

Thanks big fulla













Jus had to ask a couple of questions

[cs363]

Robert T and Quasi evel, how many times and miles have you both driven your officual buisness vehicles on private buisness? That the company fuel card paid for, YEP guys, that is also ripping off the NZ economy, and do not try to say you DO NOT do this.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how is that ripping off the NZ economy?
If a business vehicle is used for private use, you pay FBT. Presumably the vehicle was purchased in NZ as is the fuel, oil, tyres and other running expenses, all of which are taxed (and taxed and taxed etc). The only people I see getting a slightly raw deal out of this is the company concerned.
Not trying to be a smart ass but to me this seems more like a contribution than a rip off?

[Robert Taylor]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how is that ripping off the NZ economy?
If a business vehicle is used for private use, you pay FBT. Presumably the vehicle was purchased in NZ as is the fuel, oil, tyres and other running expenses, all of which are taxed (and taxed and taxed etc). The only people I see getting a slightly raw deal out of this is the company concerned.
Not trying to be a smart ass but to me this seems more like a contribution than a rip off?

Yes, all purchased locally, proudly supporting NZ business and thereby supporting NZ workers. And I can assure you that we are by no means making huge profits, averse to the simplistic notion that we have huge margins and healthy after tax profits. Otherwise we would be driving around in Hummers. Not likely for one moment.

[Fatjim]

These threads always winde me up soo much...

Soo many people THINK they know how this industry works.
Let me tell you... Reading the posts on this thread. Proves that many of you are just repeating what you have heard or read somewhere. And no offence but I only see a few on here who have a clue about whats really going on.

Take from that what you will. Cry me a river even. Boo Hoo and all that other crap.
The industry isnt perfect, but its not exactly terrible either.

Did you know that Shoei helmets cost more in Oz...?
$1250 in Oz for an X-spirit (they call them X Eleven's) $999 here.
OH MY GOD!!! WHAT RIP OFFS!!!

Alpinestars Race Rep Suits.... 2500 Euro....
But sell for $3500 here. You do the math.

Sparky, before I bought my X-11 last year I came and saw you for a price and ETA. 3 months and $1200+. Within a week I had it from Japan, for less than $800.

Try getting leathers to fit me in NZ, or boots. Would it hurt the importers to bring in size 49 sports boots? I'm not the only size 49 in NZ. Surely Sugilite has big feet as well?

It would take little effort for a motorcycle shop to set up the supply of Shoei helmets on a 7 day turnaround (mine took 3 business days to arrive from the time I paid the bill) However the problem is I suggest, that the Shoei distributor would take a dim view and the shop may find it hard to source other brands such as RK, Teknic, Dririder etc.

I suggest that you give the local guys a chance, but check prices, especially in the US. Also weigh up whether after sales service is important or not. If you save $500 on a pair of boots and a jacket by buying in the US why would you want to support the local distibutor?

[cs363]

Try getting leathers to fit me in NZ, or boots. Would it hurt the importers to bring in size 49 sports boots? I'm not the only size 49 in NZ. Surely Sugilite has big feet as well?

Seems at least one importer covers your needs.....
http://vm.net.nz/crownkiwi/catalogue...1&pageCount=19
http://vm.net.nz/crownkiwi/catalogue...1&pageCount=19
http://vm.net.nz/crownkiwi/catalogue...1&pageCount=19

All from here: http://crownkiwi.co.nz/ its their dealer site but those are RRP's. It makes me wonder how often a lot of these buying decisions are made out of an ignorance (no offence intended) of whats available or maybe some dealers not making the effort?

[Fatjim]

Seems at least one importer covers your needs.....
http://vm.net.nz/crownkiwi/catalogue...1&pageCount=19


All from here: http://crownkiwi.co.nz/ its their dealer site but those are RRP's. It makes me wonder how often a lot of these buying decisions are made out of an ignorance (no offence intended) of whats available or maybe some dealers not making the effort?

I have in fact got these boots. I purchased them with a jacket and gloves last year for around $800 including shipping and (fuck I hate bikebandit) pre charge import duty. Took about a week to 10 days to get to my door.

The boots alone here are $449. I'd be looking at about $1200 all up I guess for the gloves and jacket as well (I haven't seen the jacket in NZ, and certainly not in a XXXL size).

[Shaun]

Absolutely, dont deny it for one second. Its measly ''payback'' when for example you look as an employer at what you are paying in mindless parasitical levies for this and that. If business was all a bed of roses more would survive.

Poker poke what ever BUT

Robert, this is you admittiing to having double standards!

You get on here and put down people for using the internet for cheaper purchase options, but ALSO ADMITT to ripping of the system your self!

Where does it all start and stop powl.

The system is the system, and as an employer, YOU are making money off your staff, so fair enough that you as a buisness pay taxes etc- NOT CONTRIBUTING TO RIPPING THE SYSTEM OFF.

[Robert Taylor]

Poker poke what ever BUT

Robert, this is you admittiing to having double standards!

You get on here and put down people for using the internet for cheaper purchase options, but ALSO ADMITT to ripping of the system your self!

Where does it all start and stop powl.

The system is the system, and as an employer, YOU are making money off your staff, so fair enough that you as a buisness pay taxes etc- NOT CONTRIBUTING TO RIPPING THE SYSTEM OFF.

I think you should spare yourself further embarassment because frankly you are clutching at very thin straws and not making a whole load of sense. Dont start me on ripping off the system while you are standing on precariously thin ice.
At all times my line is support the NZ economy and therefore support our own workers.
That is enough said.

[cs363]

The system is the system, and as an employer, YOU are making money off your staff, so fair enough that you as a buisness pay taxes etc- NOT CONTRIBUTING TO RIPPING THE SYSTEM OFF.

I can't believe that slavery is alive and well at Ohlins NZ HQ!!?? I know you are a bit behind the times on some things Robert, but slavery was abolished quite some time ago - I suggest you start paying your staff immediately!