Social conditioning

[Number One]

Hard to say, at times we are not aware we have been 'conditioned'.

I never consciously 'give-up' anything to be accepted.

That's it!

How to override conditioning, especially in situations where you are not even aware that it's 'just conditioning' urging you to make a certain choice or decision.

[ManDownUnder]

That's it!

How to override conditioning, especially in situations where you are not even aware that it's 'just conditioning' urging you to make a certain choice or decision.

So the ability to resist conditioning is... conditional? I think I need a lie down.

[Number One]

So the ability to resist conditioning is... conditional? I think I need a lie down.

Indeed - the force is strong with you. The answers are inside....

[Trudes]

I'm me, if you don't like who I am then that's your problem, not mine.

Basically, I live my life the way I want, generally I do what I want to, and providing my choices and actions are not having a negative impact on someone else's life, then it's all good (well, you know, to a degree, the truly analytical could come and argue that by my riding my 2 stroke bucket around and around for an hour is hurting us all by its polluting emitions.... blah blah blah).
But I think I know what you're on about,... how much should you change your inner-self to conform with what society thinks you should act or think like, and this in turn effects what people think of you and hence how you get treated?? (Is that what this is about??)
Well, like we were discussing not long ago #1, I actually prefer to spend time on my own and would be happy to be just left alone, however I have to work and there I have to be happy cheerful Mrs Kendog who cares about everyone and their little dramas. I believe also that I'm perceived by most people completely differently than I think I really am, and only those closest to me actually really know who and what I am really like. I often get asked what's wrong with me or people think I'm moody, however, that day I may have just chosen to not bother putting on the show and they saw the real me.... again, if you don't like it, bugger off!!
, fuck, that was deep!!!
As you all were folks (Wrote an assignment today, still in ramble mode!)

[CookMySock]

How much of myself am I willing to give up to be acceptable to others - that's the question...how much should we?

Oh none at all. Keep in front of you what and who you really want at all times. Never lose focus on these. You already know who these people are and what things are in this category.

... there is a huge amount of joy in not feeling quite so bound by 'the rules' of navigating society and people at large

well you touch on all sorts of possibilities there.. Some things are just so yummy.. we know we want to.. don't we.. How to balance that house of cards is the problem, then.

DB

[scumdog]

Oh none at all. Keep in front of you what and who you really want at all times. Never lose focus on these. You already know who these people are and what things are in this category.
DB

That's the problem - do we REALLY always notice when we've been 'socially conditioned'???

And then counter it?

[Number One]

That's the problem - do we REALLY always notice when we've been 'socially conditioned'???

And then counter it?

Exactly! This is one of the points I'm querying SO TO what MRS K said but to a much lesser extent.

So if we don't know we are conditioned then how can we ensure we are reacting in ways that are about what is important or right for us VERSUS the reaction that comes from our conditioning....

[mstriumph]

social conditioning??? ............does msclairol make that?

seriously - there are things i wouldn't do in public - but that's about the limit of mine


and NOT because i'm conditioned not to - but because it would be too draughty!!

[1 Free Man]

Social conditioning is HUGE. Just watch any married guy in a room full of topless women all wanting him

????Where, pray tell, where does one find this room full of topless women.????

[Oakie]

????Where, pray tell, where does one find this room full of topless women.????

My lounge last time we played stip poker with Mrs Oakie's sister and her hubby. Well ok so it wasn't exactly full ...

[jrandom]

That's the problem - do we REALLY always notice when we've been 'socially conditioned'???

And then counter it?

I'd comment that much of what might be called 'social conditioning' is in fact social skills.

[mstriumph]

????Where, pray tell, where does one find this room full of topless women.????

in his fevered imagination ...

[Number One]

I'd comment that much of what might be called 'social conditioning' is in fact social skills.

What I'm talking about is where the conditioning/social expectations or excepted norms call for or urge you to respond/react/behave in a way that (while may be considered the 'socially acceptable’ or high EQ way) contradicts your own compass and instincts.

Here's a thought: "Belief systems are more powerful than truth and always lead to long-sustained ignorance and waste" Isn't social conditioning just another belief system. What we should all be and do etc etc...Because it's taught and believed to be the right way

[jrandom]

in his fevered imagination ...

Anything can be had for the right price.

[Bren]

social conditioning says I should not have a mullet, but I have a baby mullet....fuck social conditioning...