Scooter economy?

[Del Fuego]

Speaking from some experience. not many scoots do better than about 40km per litre even 50cc machines. They do if you nanna them.. flat road, constant 30kph etc etc hence the manufacturer claims of 100s of MPGs.

In the real world with hills and full throttle expect a good 50 to use around 2.5L/100kph or around 93Mpg and a good 125 to use something like 2.8 -3.0 L/100km or mid to high 80Mpg. Still bloody good value, especially when you take into account the convenience etc etc etc

[glice]

40k per litre sounds good.

and suprising the fuel economy of the smaller scoots. Although slight bigger in displacement my 400cc scoot is getting up to 27km/l on the motorway and about 23-25 km/l around town. Upon reflection I am pretty pleased about that. My previous 4 stoke 150 used to return 33-35 km/l. So I guess in this case if you double your cc's you certainly don't double your consumption.

Anyone out there with bigger scoot getting good economy?

I'm a little surprized aswel, I can give my in line 4 250 a bit of a thrash and still get 23ish k per L. the worst I've had was 16.5, but that was on the track.

[Badjelly]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_cub claims 146km/L. That's based on 30kph average -- which is about what you'd average around town. Not screaming at the 70kph top speed heh

Also, check this official page from Honda -- http://www.honda.co.jp/motor-lineup/...uip/index.html -- they claim 130km/L there too.

Even the C90 (90cc) is supposed to get 200mpg, which is about 85km/L.

Unfortunately there's no source cited for the 146 km/l figure on the Wikipedia page. (The Wikipedia maintainers agree with me, as the panel at the top of the page shows.)

The official Honda page you've cited is in Japanese, which unfortunately I don't understand, though you obviously do

So, in the interests of Internet truth, if you can point me to a page in English that documents these very low fuel consumption figures for the Honda Cub, I'll see if I can get a citation included on the Wikipedia page.

[Del Fuego]

generally these very low fuel figures are based on rolling road type tests whereby the bike runs at about 30kph constant speed flat ground equivalent... no wind, no rider etc etc etc. Very hard to confirm in a real world situation. You could come close if you rode a flat road at a slow constant speed... you would also probably get run over by a bus.

[KelvinAng]

Unfortunately there's no source cited for the 146 km/l figure on the Wikipedia page. (The Wikipedia maintainers agree with me, as the panel at the top of the page shows.)

The official Honda page you've cited is in Japanese, which unfortunately I don't understand, though you obviously do

So, in the interests of Internet truth, if you can point me to a page in English that documents these very low fuel consumption figures for the Honda Cub, I'll see if I can get a citation included on the Wikipedia page.

I do find it quite an absurd claim... 130/L as claimed by Honda Japan. A computer translation of the footnote fine print reads "30km/h fixed area run test value". So I read that to mean if the scooter's engine runs at equivalent of 30km/hr, inside a vacuum, weightless environment and where energy conversion is 100% (no loss of energy to heat etc), it would have covered 130km/L...

I guess the more realistic figure from real life users' experience is:
50cc 4-stroke - 35-40km/L
50cc 2-stroke - 30-35km/L

[xwhatsit]

Unfortunately there's no source cited for the 146 km/l figure on the Wikipedia page. (The Wikipedia maintainers agree with me, as the panel at the top of the page shows.)

The official Honda page you've cited is in Japanese, which unfortunately I don't understand, though you obviously do

So, in the interests of Internet truth, if you can point me to a page in English that documents these very low fuel consumption figures for the Honda Cub, I'll see if I can get a citation included on the Wikipedia page.

There's an image, in the second `section' of the page, with a picture of a petrol pump and `130km/L' written there. It looks like this:



Of course, it is a marketing figure -- and KelvinAng is right, it is from a 30kph test. I don't think they're talking about vacuums and 100% energy efficiency etc., it's just the usual `ideal conditions' kind of marketing figure. My RS was claimed to get 85mpg (~36km/L), but I've only seen 33km/L once and most of the time return around 28km/L. Just like horsepower figures, really.

[ZK-Awesome]

To revive an old thread...
I did an MPG test on my SJ50 (2-stroke) today. On the open road at 60, (not quite full throttle, but not far off) I did 32km and used 1.24L.

This equates to:
60mpg
25.8km per litre
8.4c per kilometre
3.87L per 100km

I thought it would be a little better, mind you I was going quite hard. I've heard of Kawasaki Ninja 250s getting better. I'm going to try the A100 (also 2 stroke) soon for comparison.

[davereid]

Yep, my scooter gets about 60-65 mpg, so does my ER650. But the scooter is easy on tyres, etc etc etc

[melzyx]

http://www.thescooterreview.com/revi...mparison-tests

This site just compares some of the 50cc scooters and reviews each one. I hope it helps, it did for me

and yes I know other people have suggested this website as well I just wantedto get my 2 cents in.

[slowlegs]

It would be interesting to do some comparisons of, say a 50 to a 100 or 125cc scooter. As Anthrax said, the 50's work and rev a lot harder so are probably not going to be as efficient as something larger. Like the 2 litre Commodores that came out years ago. They were gutless as heck but as they worked harder used more gas than the 3 litre ones.

[Del Fuego]

Our current top "fuel misers" are two 50cc 4strokes... the zip 50 and honda today 50 followed by the lifan metro 50 and then a 125 and a 100cc

[Warren]

Here are some of my scooters' fuel economies

2002 250cc 4-stroke Piaggio is around 4L/100km

2007 125cc 4-stroke Kymco Agility 3.01L/100km

2002 125cc 4-stroke Suzuki SJ125T was 3.7L/100km if I remember correctly but I could be incorrect there.

[2Cycle]

One of the big problems getting better economy out of 50cc scooters is that they are normally operated at near max rpm and the ignition is retarding the timing (rev limiting) yet the operator is still holding the throttle wide open so there is a lot of fuel being wasted. A good thing to do is try and gear it up a bit and get an after market ignition to increase the rev limiter.

[marty]

if you're crying over the difference between 3l/100 and 4l/100, good grief - go and get a better paying job!

whatever scooter you buy, the fuel useage is minimal. try running a big bike - $800/yr insurance, $300/2 months for rear tyre, 200/6 months for front tyre, 5-6l/100kms if cruising.

what would Chopper say?

[SupaCross Cycles]

What ever you do....DO!!not by one of these cheap chinese things.. Cause what you save on fuel you will be spending on repairs thats if you can find the parts to repair it...