Has New Zealand gone soft?

[Grahameeboy]

A society that lives on co-operation and no competition would signify a society throwing flowers around and hugging each other. Maybe you need to head back to the hippy days of the 60's.

A healthy society has people that are willing to challenge and ask questions, take on a challenge and win or lose, learn to spell and be educated, succeed when others cant be arsed getting off their butts to do anything useful to add to that society.

We have lost that. You participate you get a pretty little certificate even if you came last....wtf!

I guess you have to look at what "winning" really means..does it really mean coming first?

[Wingnut]

There is nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition at all.

If you cant take the heat - get out of the fire.

Competition is the rivalry between individuals (or groups or nations) for territory or resources. It arises whenever two or more parties strive for something that all cannot obtain i.e., the rivalry of two or more parties over something. Competition occurs naturally between living organisms which coexist in the same environment. For example, animals compete over water supplies, food, and mates. In addition, humans compete for attention, wealth, prestige, and fame.

Competition can be remote, as in a free throw contest, or antagonistic, as in a standard basketball game. These contests are similar, but in the first one players are isolated from each other, while in the second one they are able to interfere with the performance of their competitors.

Competition gives incentives for self improvement. If two watchmakers are competing for business, they will lower their prices and improve their products to increase their sales. If birds compete for a limited water supply during a drought, the more suited birds will survive to reproduce and improve the population.


Go Wikipedia!!!

[Grahameeboy]

Is this really "too soft"..recognise this...I win I win!!

This was for your KIDS to get a taste of what it's like to ride a Trail bike/Quad in a safe controlled environment
thank you everybody that came along and helped make it a fantastic day
SPECIAL thanks to
Gazzer--for setting up the track tapes at short notice
Grantman --for the fantastic little books for the kids
Littlejohn- for the barby,tent and mechanicing
Oldguy--for loaning a virtual stranger two bikes
MillarsCarCentre -for sponsoring the whole event- food,loan bikes,drink and venue

[Grahameeboy]

There is nothing wrong with a bit of healthy competition at all.

If you cant take the heat - get out of the fire.

Competition is the rivalry between individuals (or groups or nations) for territory or resources. It arises whenever two or more parties strive for something that all cannot obtain i.e., the rivalry of two or more parties over something. Competition occurs naturally between living organisms which coexist in the same environment. For example, animals compete over water supplies, food, and mates. In addition, humans compete for attention, wealth, prestige, and fame.

Competition can be remote, as in a free throw contest, or antagonistic, as in a standard basketball game. These contests are similar, but in the first one players are isolated from each other, while in the second one they are able to interfere with the performance of their competitors.

Competition gives incentives for self improvement. If two watchmakers are competing for business, they will lower their prices and improve their products to increase their sales. If birds compete for a limited water supply during a drought, the more suited birds will survive to reproduce and improve the population.


Go Wikipedia!!!

Go Wingnutipedia

Healthy is the key

[portokiwi]

I know in Christchurch the schools promote its not winning its fair play they say you are not there to win but to enjoy.... Such BS.
I was coaching school teams. My approch was to win first train hard, play hard but fair.
when we won we reached that objective if we lost we lose nicely.
But only then.
It was very hard as the teachers thought I was being to hard on the kids.
Its a shame but thats the new zealand way of life here.

[Trudes]

Healthy is the key

Exactly, healthy competition is good, makes you a better person to have to try your best to do something and try to be the best, but it gets unhealthy when you only compete to win and can't see what you have gotten out of the game when you don't win.

[Grahameeboy]

I know in Christchurch the schools promote its not winning its fair play they say you are not there to win but to enjoy.... Such BS.
I was coaching school teams. My approch was to win first train hard, play hard but fair.
when we won we reached that objective if we lost we lose nicely.
But only then.
It was very hard as the teachers thought I was being to hard on the kids.
Its a shame but thats the new zealand way of life here.

I love it...

I have to say that I go for the enjoying...often this makes you a winner.

Give you a simple example:

Use to turn up to Sunday free squash where everyone just plays eachother in an afternoon.

I was a g ood player but just not serious...would often beat the top league players because they lost getting upset with themselves because they were not winning...I didn't care, just enjoyed playing and won....didn't help that I can play with both hands of course but hell I had fun and won sometimes...

[Grahameeboy]

Exactly, healthy competition is good, makes you a better person to have to try your best to do something and try to be the best, but it gets unhealthy when you only compete to win and can't see what you have gotten out of the game when you don't win.

Thats excactly trude....I mean true

[portokiwi]

But thats the problem with the schools. They are not promoting to win but to have fun. They say we dont care if you dont win?????
Where is the sporting attude in that?
Try to win but have fun doing it.

[Grahameeboy]

But thats the problem with the schools. They are not promoting to win but to have fun. They say we dont care if you dont win?????
Where is the sporting attude in that?
Try to win but have fun doing it.

Remember "Grasshopper" it is the journey not the destination....

[portokiwi]

Remember Grasshopper when your eyes are like mine..... Yes Master

[Grahameeboy]

Remember Grasshopper when your eyes are like mine..... Yes Master

Frisky from the sounds of it......

[FROSTY:Me]

Is this really "too soft"..recognise this...I win I win!!

This was for your KIDS to get a taste of what it's like to ride a Trail bike/Quad in a safe controlled environment
thank you everybody that came along and helped make it a fantastic day
SPECIAL thanks to
Gazzer--for setting up the track tapes at short notice
Grantman --for the fantastic little books for the kids
Littlejohn- for the barby,tent and mechanicing
Oldguy--for loaning a virtual stranger two bikes
MillarsCarCentre -for sponsoring the whole event- food,loan bikes,drink and venue

What on earth has this got to do with competing and winning?
seriously dude?

[Grahameeboy]

What on earth has this got to do with competing and winning?
seriously dude?

Nothing...that was my point...particpation is the key

[FROSTY:Me]

errrrm the teachers? The grounding of these concepts comes from home - not school. Where is the parents responsibility? Why is this the first time that you have had this conversation with baby bikie??

Its not the first time but when he was younger he seemed to get the concept.
I guess its a case of -well Dad says and shows me this way. but all the teachers at school are saying /doing the oposite.
The mindset frightens me. and I've noticed it more and more in the 15-20year olds. Its become --Ohh I want it all I want it now and if I can't have it I'll throw a tanty. But if its too hard to acheive I'll just give up
Sport at the moment is a reflection of this I feel.