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    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
    Um wood is a renewable resourse, unlike oil,coal,water.
    Trees will grow just about anywhere, If farmed properly, 1/4 acre of woodland can keep a house supplied with enough wood indefinatly.
    And If you own the trees its free fuel, heating, cooking, \So there!
    The carbon released by the burning of the wood is less than the carbon removed from the air by the trees you harvest from your woodland.
    I know personally which fuel I would want to be warmed by on a cold night, when its snowing, the power lines are down, and the gass bottles have frozen to the outside wall!
    Well, then I stand corrected. I guess I'll just blow up all the houses near me and plant trees that I can properly harvest.
    If done properly, the power lines shouldn't be down on a cold night when its snowing. Besides, I have a really warm wife that keeps me very, very warm, on the above mentioned nights. So there!
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    Some vegan goth chicks are very attractive. And not adverse to all meat.

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    Nuke the Whales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    Nuke the Whales.
    Tsk tsk. can't melt the blubber then or eat the meat. Silly boy.
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    I am amazed by the breadth of stupidity demonstrated by Fonterra in China.

    1. They went into a joint venture partnership. As a late arrival in China there was plenty of evidence of western companies coming unglued in such "arrangements". A reasonably canny organisation should have been able to join the dots and avoid these bear traps.

    2. Despite not having complete control of their raw material supply chain, Fonterra entrusted San Lu with their prestige baby food brand.

    3. When the crisis broke, Fonterra remained silent for nearly a month, despite having had considerable prior knowledge of the tragically unfolding events.

    This is a well resourced company that pays shit loads of money to professional managers well versed in Total Quality Management and other quality systems. The depth of incompetence shown in the aftermath points to a propensity to take expedient short cuts. Not a clever strategy for any business anywhere at any time.

    There's a lot too that Fonterra could learn about reputation risk management -- knowledge that should be embedded within the organisation rather than in the pockets of $400 an hour PR "consultants". It's not rocket science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    No... you take your Stihl chainsaw with you into the forest ( the biggest don't-fuck-with-me model you can buy) and cut down a native tree for your firewood... Durrr!
    Hopefully that will be a 2-smoke chainsaw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    ... professional managers well versed in Total Quality Management and other quality systems.
    I have never encountered anyone meeting that description who wasn't a drivelling idiot. Or, at least, a well-meaning but permanently flustered individual of mediocre capability who had chanced to bumble their way into a position of excessive responsibility.

    In my experience, TQM, Six Sigma and the like are no more than efforts to formalise common sense, and are:

    (a) completely useless when people without common sense attempt to apply them, and

    (b) nothing more than dead weight when people with common sense are trying to get things done.

    The simple fact here, I suspect, is that Fonterra is used to dealing with the likes of New Zealand dairy farmers and American milk-powder purchasers, and simply failed to appreciate the true nature of the devil they were making a pact with when they went into business in China.

    I doubt they'll make the same mistake again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    It's not rocket science.
    Perhaps not, but the Chinese mentality is alien to the likes of you and me, and it's difficult to fathom it unless one has actually experienced it in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    the Chinese mentality is alien to the likes of you and me, and it's difficult to fathom it unless one has actually experienced it in person.
    My criticism isn't directed at the Chinese. It's aimed at the kiwis and other westerners employed by Fonterra, particularly their senior management team and CEO. They've got an internationally valuable reputation to protect of which they seem, to my eyes, to be a little disrespectful and uncaring. I smell the fetid aroma of lawyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    My criticism isn't directed at the Chinese...
    Mine is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    It's aimed at the kiwis and other westerners employed by Fonterra, particularly their senior management team and CEO.
    They were guilty solely of trusting their business partners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    They've got an internationally valuable reputation to protect of which they seem, to my eyes, to be a little disrespectful and uncaring...
    Have a heart. The poor bastards were undoubtedly panicking their arses off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Have a heart. The poor bastards were undoubtedly panicking their arses off.
    No doubt about that at all. I'm sure we'll never get the full story of Chinese gummint involvement, but I'm willing to bet there was "pressure" applied to avoid this coming out during the olympics.
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    I was talking to my boss yesterday about Greenies etc., and we discussed the strange phenomenon that we seem to have a Gummint that is applying rules and policies that are both stupid and almost universally despised. Now, as usual, I am plucking this out of my arse, but I believe it's true. In particular, I refer to their 'green' policies. Here's some examples:
    1. We've signed up for the Kyoto agreement, and hobbled ourselves with some crippling policies such as monetarily flaggellating ourselves for our non-green activities, to uphold our bullshit "Clean, Green" image, even though our semi-Third World economy can't cope with it. It would be cheaper and more effective if we really want to clean up our act to enforce emissions checks, stop importing crappy used Jap vehicles, and institute some real (as opposed to token) recycling.

    2. Taxing the crap out of fuel for private motor vehicles, even though the Evrij NooZilunder has overwhelmingly shown that he/she doesn't want to use the crappy public transport system, and would rather drive everywhere.

    3. Outlawing the evil incandescent lightbulb, to save the (now let me see if I can get it right this time) baby lesbian Maori vegan fur seal whale penguins. In rushing to do so, we ended up with a whole lot of cheap, crappy, mercury-rich, unrecyclable CFL 'energy saving' bulbs to replace them. Even though the power usage from lighting is one of the more trivial parts of the whole consumption. (On a side note - why do we need to save energy? Fuck it, I pay for what I use, so the power companies can make a huge profit from the infrastructure decades of public money built up. If I'm paying, I should be able to use as much power as I want. If there's insufficient generation capacity, repeal the EnvironMENTAL Resource Act and put up a few hundred more wind turbines. Holland is MUCH greener than us, and they seem to have no problem with doing that. Or build some nuke-yular reactors like those ones sprouting all over Yurp.)

    4. The Gummint promulgates the propaganda they get from GreenPiss almost verbatim, without checking the veracity of it.

    5. Theres a whole lot more stuff I could pluck out of my arse, but it's getting smelly, I'm getting pissed off, and I should have a quick browse of the forums before I do some work.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    I was talking to my boss yesterday about Greenies etc., and we discussed the strange phenomenon that we seem to have a Gummint that is applying rules and policies that are both stupid and almost universally despised. Now, as usual, I am plucking this out of my arse, but I believe it's true. In particular, I refer to their 'green' policies. Here's some examples:
    1. We've signed up for the Kyoto agreement, and hobbled ourselves with some crippling policies such as monetarily flaggellating ourselves for our non-green activities, to uphold our bullshit "Clean, Green" image, even though our semi-Third World economy can't cope with it. It would be cheaper and more effective if we really want to clean up our act to enforce emissions checks, stop importing crappy used Jap vehicles, and institute some real (as opposed to token) recycling.

    2. Taxing the crap out of fuel for private motor vehicles, even though the Evrij NooZilunder has overwhelmingly shown that he/she doesn't want to use the crappy public transport system, and would rather drive everywhere.

    3. Outlawing the evil incandescent lightbulb, to save the (now let me see if I can get it right this time) baby lesbian Maori vegan fur seal whale penguins. In rushing to do so, we ended up with a whole lot of cheap, crappy, mercury-rich, unrecyclable CFL 'energy saving' bulbs to replace them. Even though the power usage from lighting is one of the more trivial parts of the whole consumption. (On a side note - why do we need to save energy? Fuck it, I pay for what I use, so the power companies can make a huge profit from the infrastructure decades of public money built up. If I'm paying, I should be able to use as much power as I want. If there's insufficient generation capacity, repeal the EnvironMENTAL Resource Act and put up a few hundred more wind turbines. Holland is MUCH greener than us, and they seem to have no problem with doing that. Or build some nuke-yular reactors like those ones sprouting all over Yurp.)

    4. The Gummint promulgates the propaganda they get from GreenPiss almost verbatim, without checking the veracity of it.

    5. Theres a whole lot more stuff I could pluck out of my arse, but it's getting smelly, I'm getting pissed off, and I should have a quick browse of the forums before I do some work.
    Ouch! Eloquence accompanied by truth so early in the morning, how refreshing...
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    The world's mental. All they see is a potential economy to rape, I mean capitalise on.

    The Chinese have seen it before. They have a long collective memory and an alien culture.

    Serves you right white boy.

    Moral of the story: Don't do business with China. It will be a short term gain, followed by the destruction (either material or reputation) of the corporate entity that thought the yellow people were an exploitable resource.
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