So we got a new Government, and a new Leader

[James Deuce]

Does anyone really, truly believe that big changes are going to occur because of the election? Only time will tell...

God no!

Just subtle little ones that only affect minorities that no one cares about. You can save 10s of millions that way.

[Robert Taylor]

Oh this just gets better...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10542203

Finn, pity the boys in blue didnt capture another 5 - 10 seats to really rub it in. Especially if they were largely at the cost of that ''watermelon'' party.

[scracha]

If you dont like things in N.Z then FUCK OFF TO WHERE EVER YOU CAME

We pay our taxes, we're entitled to vote and we can run down any country that pisses us off so fuck off yourself you racist cunt.

[SARGE]

Are you on drugs?

Competition and choice reduces the size of the bureaucracy. Business managers don't allow the wastage and loss that takes place under state management

Privatisation does not raise costs. It creates incentives for companies to increase efficiency and improve service.

riight.. but managers also look for the cheapest way of getting things done.

case in point .. the Chinese and Haitian schools that recently collapsed were privately owned .. wanna bet some corners were cut in building them to cut costs?

in the States .. we have what are called HMO's - private health organizations that take the lowest bidders to treat patients .... been a mess since inception ( i think that Doctor on the Simpsons runs it now ...)

i am happy to pay extra for good service.. dont take my car to a cut rate panelbeater.. dont b uy discounted parachutes and dont use bargain brain surgeons ..

in the Marine Corps .. we had a saying ...

" never forget your Weapon was built by the lowest bidder"


EDIT... just found this ....

The owner of the school and church, Protestant minister Fortin Augustin, was arrested. Haitian President Rene Preval said the school, with an enrollment of 700, had been built with hardly any structural steel or cement to bind concrete blocks.

[Skyryder]

I did read your post , I understand what you are saying, sort of, labour has grown the public service, for no discernable improvement in results & it is all the free markets fault.
I dont recall Key saying he would sell ACC , Schools or Health , please provide evidence of such statements.
Personally I would be happy to have an ability to opt out of ACC for a private scheme
I would welcome the return of bulk funding, people I spoke to that were at the pointy end of running schools seemed to like it.
If the public health system can't cope & the private system is able to offer services to reduce the overloading of the public system , I don't see a problem. There are plenty of people who would be dead if they relied on the public system
I have a friend who had a heart problem, public system said 12 months , the spcialist said do it now. Mate was cashed up after his divorce so he went private & paid. The surgeon said after the op "bloody lucky , you didnt have 12 months left",
Nasty, nasty money grubbing private sector.

Once you bring your persoanal life or those that you know into an arguement to support your position it's an admission of your inabilty to support your aguement with either logic or facts. Experiance has taught me that in this situation any opinion that is counter is in most cases taken personaly and I usually post no further on the subject

As to the evidence of my claims be patient. The Nats will eventully supply it for you.

Skyyrder

[trustme]

Once you bring your persoanal life or those that you know into an arguement to support your position it's an admission of your inabilty to support your aguement with either logic or facts. Experiance has taught me that in this situation any opinion that is counter is in most cases personaly and I usually post no further on the subject

As to the evidence of my claims be patient. The Nats will eventully supply it for you.

Skyyrder

Your good Skyryder . I ask you to provide some form of eviidence to back up your sweeping generalisations & baseless attacks , I provide evidence to support my opinion & yes some of it is anecdotal but it does support the arguement with both logic & fact,
Your posts indicate that you have only a nodding aquaintance with either logic or fact .
I look forward to your silence , but I suspect it won't last

[SARGE]

Your good Skyryder . I ask you to provide some form of eviidence to back up your sweeping generalisations & baseless attacks , I provide evidence to support my opinion & yes some of it is anecdotal but it does support the arguement with both logic & fact,
Your posts indicate that you have only a nodding aquaintance with either logic or fact .
I look forward to your silence , but I suspect it won't last

ladies...ladies..... you're BOTH pretty..

[trustme]

Stop hitting on me you gay army boy.

[cowpoos]

if ugly auntie helen had stepped down 6 months ago we'd still have a nice sensible labour govt instead of national who will sell everything off by lunchtime. people were just sick of her face, not labour's policies.

What makes you and many other people think national will sell everything off by lunch time??? are ya fucking dumb??

Remeber Labour selling the rails??? and then buying it back at a higher cost because it was making mone in private hands???

What does that tell you?? Buericrats can't run bussiness's...

So now we have a bussiness orientated governement again...things will run more efficeiently...and hope fully they won't bribe you with your own money [tax's] like this this working for families bullshit,et al...and tell you how to run your own life...allow you to make decisions...and hoplfully bring some common sense back into NZ life...

Oh dear I could go on..and don't get me started with the greens..

[tjwatt]

Well bren. You seem to have not much faith in who runs NZ. AS long as they bring down reg for Motorcycles who cares. Go hard Go fast

[SARGE]

Stop hitting on me you gay army boy.

do i have room on "the List"?


yup..


strike one...

[davereid]

What makes you and many other people think national will sell everything off by lunch time??? are ya fucking dumb??

Sadly National have said they won't be selling F.All.

Hopefully ACT will have some influence there, and dodgy, costly, liabilities like the railway network will be bulldozed and turned into motorways so Idiots can never waste my money buying them back.

Remember that Toll was a publicly listed company. If you really thought it was worth buying, all you had to do was grab your EFTPOS card, and go buy some shares.

[alanzs]

God no!

Just subtle little ones that only affect minorities that no one cares about. You can save 10s of millions that way.

I agree with you. Everyone gets all whipped up into a frenzy, for nothing. Same general shit, different faces, more bravado and the same old crap...

[James Deuce]

I agree with you. Everyone gets all whipped up into a frenzy, for nothing. Same general shit, different faces, more bravado and the same old crap...

It's not for nothing dude. It does affect me. So, yeah, I'm not happy. But as I said, no one gives a toss about things that don't affect them any more, so it's my problem eh?

[James Deuce]

Sadly National have said they won't be selling F.All.

Hopefully ACT will have some influence there, and dodgy, costly, liabilities like the railway network will be bulldozed and turned into motorways so Idiots can never waste my money buying them back.

Remember that Toll was a publicly listed company. If you really thought it was worth buying, all you had to do was grab your EFTPOS card, and go buy some shares.

Rail infrastructure and sea ports are the key to a modern distribution network. Not roads. I think they should sell the roads and make them private and develop rail and shipping. Then you'd see some financial and carbon credit savings.