North Auckland Street Skills - NASS

[Sly_guy]

The problem with cornering is bikes is you never want to find out beyond!

No, totally agree.... but clearly none of us were taking it too far on Wed, otherwise we'd have been off !?!

I guess my car analogy wasn't the best.. but I guess what i'm trying to say, is that at least now I'm more aware that my limit is further away than I originally thought!

At the moment, when it comes to bikes, i'm very happy to learn anything from anyone (anyone half sensible that is) is prepared to teach me. If that's leaning through corners, or balancing whilst stationary I don't really mind.. I'm finding i'm able to put the vast majority of what we learn on a wed night in to practice on a daily basis !

[fireball]

well after my mad dash across town to get from hunua to westgate in peak hour traffic in under 45mins i think i did well

was good to catch up with some old AWNMR riders EJ, please do something about that FXR i swear its gong to burst into flames, all i could smell was gas

as for the ride and content.... not overly impressed im not here to complain but really... there is a risk of an accident happening if you're not careful with what you are teaching.
the first part of the riding in groups chat was good, but when it digressed into weaving in and out of white lines, scaring other motorists etc i was rather shocked. You are there setting a standard to new bikers and encouraging dangerous behaviour i would think is not acceptable.

i know things have changed but bring back some of the content that was in AWNMR if you need to have 2 groups of riders advanced and learner i will happily offer myself to be available on wednesdays to take a learner session if need be.

Just think about what you are showing new riders, in the end i know its down to personal choice what you do on the road but in a group such as this, safety and positive role modling should come first.


(and this is my 2c from an intsructors point of view, sorry if this has caused offence its just i couldnt let an accident happen and think.... what if i didnt speak up about my concerns)

[LilSel]

Enjoyed the ride up to albany on the diff route with more corners, however I also agree that alot has changed from the awnmr days. I was comfortable with things but it didnt seem so friendly for learners albeit there were no problems on the night.

Maybe prior to the rides a little could be said about the plans for the night etc?
So that it can be guaged as to how suitable it would be for diff levels of experience. For example - Emergency Braking=Good for those still learning, Def would come & bring mates that are new to bikes along. Bum off seat=Not really ideal for learners, wouldnt bring a learner along kinda thing.

Anyhows, was a cool ride out there & although us girls skipped the carpark practical, we all had a good time. Hope to catch ya's again soon.

[EJK]

You, my friend, are one of the longest serving current regulars of the AWNMR/AWNR/NASS and your opinion is most certainly a valid one.

And i'm glad that you brought attention to it, we don't want things to go down the same track as when the AWNR got shut down for supposedly teaching reckless maneuvers - Wheelies, Knee down, etc. etc.

A strictor introduction will be brought into the beginning of the ride again like it used to, and perhaps discussions on exactly what we want to learn at the beginning should be re-introduced.

All the regulars who came over winter have done a hell of alot of the same thing, but now that it's summer we're gonna see a fair few newer riders again and we need to crack down on our lesson regime again.

More focus on theory, less on practical, all that malarky.

Your concerns are what makes you a great bloke EJ, and I salute you for it.

I personally found it very useful on Wed...

There have been many times on the roads where I've not had the confidence to take a corner at anything other than really slow speeds, or where I've gone in too hot for my skills and had to slow down a lot mid corner.

On Wed, I was able to push myself that bit further, and gain confidence in my abilities, and the bikes, to lean over.. I was amazed at the speed I was able to go around corners. That sounds very much like a hoon comment, but it means I now know a lot more about my own and my bikes limits, and there are times when that is needed...

Whenever I buy a car, I always take it somewhere quiet, and do some high speed brake testing, now to most, I probably look like a complete arse, whose thrashing the tits off his new car.. What i'm actually doing is trying to learn where the limits of my car are (and beyond, but in a safe environment), so that I know exactly what my car is capable of in the event of needing it. To me, what we were doing on Wed was the same kind of thing... (well, it was for me anyway).

My 2c

It's not the exercise thats wrong, It's the more-experienced-rider's confidence thats getting out of control!

Last week I had fun & experimented the leaning angle vs weight shift. It was a good opportunity to do so around the carpark since I don't try them on the road yet. The exercise was great.

[Cr1MiNaL]

NUBS for President lol

[retro asian]

I'd have to admit, first time coming I was a bit apprehensive, riding amongst a large group of sportier bikes...
But I got over that very quickly and have loved every minute of it.
BIG props to the Mentors!!


I've only been riding for about 6 weeks now, and haven't found any exercises so far to be out of my limits.
Everyone at their different levels seem to be benefiting, while at the same time having fun.

Good to see that the Intruders are building in numbers...

[retro asian]

when it digressed into weaving in and out of white lines, scaring other motorists etc i was rather shocked. You are there setting a standard to new bikers and encouraging dangerous behaviour i would think is not acceptable.

Think that was just a bit of tongue in cheek. Pretty sure he wasn't telling us to try it at home...

[Dixie]

I really enjoyed myself the other night, I must admit the carpark drill was over my head at this early stage I am scared to even fart let alone move on the seat but I am sure this will change with some more time on the bike, I am careful not to push myself beyond my limits as thats when I will have a shocker, so we were happy to sit that one out, but no doubt we will try it one day.
I am keen to learn more basic handilng skills, no point learning to go fast if we cant stop!
Unfortunetly I have my nephews birthday this wednesday so will probally have to miss this one but should be there next week.

[Slyer]

Yep last wednesday was a bit more advanced that usual, we were all trying something we've never really done.
Maybe we'll have some more basic stuff next week.

[Nagash]

Not sure if i'll be attending tommorow night folks, my bike's well and truely stuffed..

I'll be going to Wild West Honda in an hour or so the beg and plead for a courtest bike, shall see how that goes

[EJK]

Weather looks great. I'll accept any challenge!

[discotex]

I should be able to make it. Anyone up for a feed somewhere near westgate first?

[Nagash]

Steve (Fizbin) and I would like to recommend meeting at Mrs. Q's at Westgate around 6 o'clock >.>

[Dragon]

Hopefully getting bike saturday and away for a week after that. Are new people still welcome because if so could someone pm me the details if theres a meet on the 3rd.

Cheers

[Slyer]

Are you in auckland?