Does justice work?

[rainman]

if they wouldn't release someone at their OWN risk, then why should they be empowered to release him/her at the COMMUNITY'S risk? mmmmm?

Are you trolling or did you bang your head badly as a child?

Which further proves what a pathetic human being he is,i for one would find killing him to easy,he as we type has nothing but walls a toilet 3 shelves a very uncomfortable bed and a door not under his control for a very long time,there's nobody to watch his attempts at bravado and no one that cares.Every evening at 5.30 he has nothing but his demons,i hope there happy together.

Nicely put.

[Paul in NZ]

Wtf are you on,thats about the 3rd post of yours i agree with,annoying.

Oh gawd - now THAT is funny...

[98tls]

Oh gawd - now THAT is funny...

Xactly mate,normally he has me wanting to chuck the puter over the fence but tonight?somethings wrongup to no good methinks.

[Paul in NZ]

I dunno - jeeze - I'm about as left as it gets but fuck this shit... The guys a bloody nut bag - yes, I feel 'sorry' for him but what about the nice families lives he has ruined? Trash? WORSE than.... Degrees of murder?

[98tls]

I dunno - jeeze - I'm about as left as it gets but fuck this shit... The guys a bloody nut bag - yes, I feel 'sorry' for him but what about the nice families lives he has ruined? Trash? WORSE than.... Degrees of murder?

Hear what your saying but if given a choice i would still pay for this fucker to be miserable with my toil than grant him freedom for the price of a rope.Fwiw.

[H00dz]

I would glady support harsher sentencing.....Hell I would even go as far as supporting the death Penalty.........IF I had absolute faith that the justice system was robust enough to find the genuine guilty, guilty and the Innocent, Innocent.......this is where my dilema lays

[mstriumph]

Originally Posted by mstriumph
if they wouldn't release someone at their OWN risk, then why should they be empowered to release him/her at the COMMUNITY'S risk? mmmmm?

Are you trolling or did you bang your head badly as a child?

sorry - i didn't realise there were any members of parole boards on here ... for that reason i'll ignore your personal abuse too - parole board members being notoriously deficient in either commonsense or the ability to put together a reasoned arguement without resorting to hair-pulling

for the same reason i'll type this slowly .
... Parole Boards are NOT god and should NOT get carried away with their own sense of self-importance..... i know - i should have my mouth washed out etc etc .... but it gets worse :-

IF you, as the member of a parole board, feel that you couldn't release a particular prisoner because they would probably re-offend and endanger YOUR precious hide .... HOW DARE YOU think it's ok to release them back into the community because it's only SOMEONE ELSE that they'll probably hurt?

[rainman]

sorry - i didn't realise there were any members of parole boards on here ...

There are? Where?

for that reason i'll ignore your personal abuse too

Harden up dude, I was just having a bit of fun.

Your question is pretty stoopid though if you think about it for 5 seconds.

[Murray]

I dunno - jeeze - I'm about as left as it gets but fuck this shit... The guys a bloody nut bag - yes, I feel 'sorry' for him but what about the nice families lives he has ruined? Trash? WORSE than.... Degrees of murder?

Why cannot there be a First degree Murder/2nd Degree murder. Some murders are so obvious (The RSA murders/The guy who shot people on the Wainuiomata firebreak/the machete man/his dickhead). With DNA/camera footage etc there are plenty of ways we can be 100% certain of the murderer.

First degree murder Hang them

Then there are others Scott Watson/Mark Lundy etc where there is not absolute irrefutable evidence i.e. dna/eye witnesses/photo's etc

2nd degree murder Give them life

I realise some people will say in the second degree murder case if there is doubt they should be innocent, however if in all likelihood, without absolute, irrefutable evidence, they committed the murder then they can still be found guilty!!

[SARGE]

i've always been of the opinion that prison should be a very nasty place.. no in-floor heating.. no Big screen TV and Xbox..45 minutes outside your cell every day and a TEENY window with a view of the motorway and sewage treatment plant..put the prison in the final glide path of an airport just to make sleep a thing of the past



just pop him in a 6x4 room with a toilet and a steel rack for the rest of his life..

[jrandom]

just pop him in a 6x4 room with a toilet and a steel rack for the rest of his life..

What he said.

The 'justice' system is always going to make cockups, and the point that the death penalty is irreversible is impossible to avoid.

Locking them up and not letting them out achieves the same goal, but you can always say sorry and let them out later if it turns out they never dunnit in the first place.

Privatising prisons will be a good start to making the process more efficient. Tight fixed budgets, get some clever people on the job of making a profit off those budgets while still keeping the bad guys locked up.

Betcha the Christmas dinners and Sky TV would disappear fairly quickly.

And, while we're at it, why the fuck aren't NZ prison guards armed? Jesus H. Christ.

[SARGE]

What he said.

The 'justice' system is always going to make cockups, and the point that the death penalty is irreversible is impossible to avoid.

Locking them up and not letting them out achieves the same goal, but you can always say sorry and let them out later if it turns out they never dunnit in the first place.

Privatising prisons will be a good start to making the process more efficient. Tight fixed budgets, get some clever people on the job of making a profit off those budgets while still keeping the bad guys locked up.

Betcha the Christmas dinners and Sky TV would disappear fairly quickly.

And, while we're at it, why the fuck aren't NZ prison guards armed? Jesus H. Christ.

hire some nasty, sadistic people to deal with "Guest Services" and lets see some creative human rights violations.. the crims took someones human rights away..


karma is a motherfucker


i wouldnt ARM the guards with firearms..but i would get some retired SAS guys in there that wouldnt need guns...too easy to snatch a gun off a guard and use it against him..

[wbks]

Why the fuck would a trained soldier among the best in the world at what he does want to hang around in a shitty prison all day for shit pay doing what a trained monkey could do?

[jrandom]

i wouldnt ARM the guards with firearms..but i would get some retired SAS guys in there that wouldnt need guns...too easy to snatch a gun off a guard and use it against him..

All the NZ fullas with those skills have fucked off to earn six figures with Blackwater, Global Risk Strategies et al. I don't think you'd have any luck recruiting such quality for a shitty job like guarding prisons.

[jrandom]

Why the fuck would a trained soldier among the best in the world at what he does want to hang around in a shitty prison all day for shit pay doing what a trained monkey could do?

Yeah, what he said.