Manslaughter charge for bloke who killed tagger

[Badjelly]

No, it would have and should have been a murder charge.

It was a murder charge. The jury returned a verdict of guilty of manslaughter, as juries always have the option of doing (I think) when the charge is murder.

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If it had been two middle class white guys (funny how race is brought up, like its really important(?)) out tagging, and a overweight teenager, armed with a knife, chased them, and then the two middle class guys waited for them to catch up, said to each other, lets get him and one of the middle class guys get stabbed once with a third of the blade (can you feel the anger in that?) and the middle class guy dies, the teenager waddles home, he would probably be charged with murder. Most likely be found guilty of manslaughter, and possibly get off with self defence, maybe.

Not exactly sure I understand your rambling scenario but I think it's apparent that factors such as race, sex, economic postion and occupation do have a large bearing on terms of sentencing and conviction rates.

[Patrick]

Not exactly sure I understand your rambling scenario but I think it's apparent that factors such as race, sex, economic postion and occupation do have a large bearing on terms of sentencing and conviction rates.

Try re-reading it. It is the exact same scenario as what happened, only the players changed positions. The end result was still the same.

Yes, you might be right on the conviction anmd sentencing... Hard working people get heavier fines to those lazy arses who do nada and sit on their arses all day playing playstaion or x-box.

[ghost]

Try re-reading it. It is the exact same scenario as what happened, only the players changed positions. The end result was still the same.

Yes, you might be right on the conviction anmd sentencing... Hard working people get heavier fines to those lazy arses who do nada and sit on their arses all day playing playstaion or x-box.

LOL.. Classic, made funnier because of the truth behind that statement.....

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Oh yeah ok, and that would be why in every colonial country the prisons are full of indigenous people, and all prisons across the world are populated by the poor, and in the states if you are black and kill someone you are more likely to fry.

Just one example: www.eji.org/eji/deathpenalty/racialbias

[scumdog]

Oh yeah ok, and that would be why in every colonial country the prisons are full of indigenous people, and all prisons across the world are populated by the poor, and in the states if you are black and kill someone you are more likely to fry.

Just one example: www.eji.org/eji/deathpenalty/racialbias

Ce's la vie.....

[speedpro]

Oh yeah ok, and that would be why in every colonial country the prisons are full of indigenous people, and all prisons across the world are populated by the poor, and in the states if you are black and kill someone you are more likely to fry.

Just one example: www.eji.org/eji/deathpenalty/racialbias

They're in prison because they're the f*%&#rs who did the crime. They're poor for the same reason they did crime - they're typically not too inteligent.

By your use of the word "colonial" it would seem that you are placing some blame on the colonisation for the problem. I'm imagining the old disenfranchised, picked on, underprivelaged, that's why I'm like this bullshit excuses. Recently I've had the privelage of meeting new refugees here in NZ. These people fled their own countries leaving EVERYTHING behind. They turn up here with just the clothes they wear and have just about all made an attempt at a decent life. Every excuse the criminal scumbags trot out for their behaviour applies to these refugees, plus years and years in a refugee camp which is a horror story in itself, but they are all (so far) good, clean, hard working, proud individuals.

Idiot scumbags do crime, idiot scumbags do the time. There isn't an excuse for it and noone is to blame apart from the idiot scumbags who made their own choices. F%ck 'em I say.

[speedpro]

I'm feeling better now.

[scumdog]

They're in prison because they're the f*%&#rs who did the crime. They're poor for the same reason they did crime - they're typically not too inteligent.

Idiot scumbags do crime, idiot scumbags do the time. There isn't an excuse for it and noone is to blame apart from the idiot scumbags who made their own choices. F%ck 'em I say.

Frikkin true dat!!

[Headbanger]

I agree......

[98tls]

Australia being a prime example,highest proportion of natives banged up in the world,in fact higher than South Africa during apartheid.

[kiwi cowboy]

Point one, he wasnt protecting his property anymore he was in pursuit of the offender
Point two He was in a pursuit for retribution with a lethal weapon
Point three, afterwards he went home washed the knife, put it under his mattress and went to bed

I got no respect for taggers or scum of the earth, but just because he is a businessman I dont see how the above factors could result in a manslaughter charge, he took a knife to seek revenge and he got it, its murder plain and simple...........what did you say, he had no intent? BS a knife was taken in anger to fight not to cut a cake

All said with limited media knowledge of course.

lock him up, I dont know any reasonable people that cant put a knife into another human, he is not a reasonable person in my view and derserves the full force of the law.

Thats my view

Way i heard it they turned on him in an ally so was retreating after being sprayed so a certain amount of self defence maybe!!!!!

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They're in prison because they're the f*%&#rs who did the crime. They're poor for the same reason they did crime - they're typically not too inteligent.

By your use of the word "colonial" it would seem that you are placing some blame on the colonisation for the problem. I'm imagining the old disenfranchised, picked on, underprivelaged, that's why I'm like this bullshit excuses. Recently I've had the privelage of meeting new refugees here in NZ. These people fled their own countries leaving EVERYTHING behind. They turn up here with just the clothes they wear and have just about all made an attempt at a decent life. Every excuse the criminal scumbags trot out for their behaviour applies to these refugees, plus years and years in a refugee camp which is a horror story in itself, but they are all (so far) good, clean, hard working, proud individuals.

Idiot scumbags do crime, idiot scumbags do the time. There isn't an excuse for it and noone is to blame apart from the idiot scumbags who made their own choices. F%ck 'em I say.

Why the venom my friend? Had a hard day Christmas shopping?

Little maori kid squiggles on a fence, white middle aged business man runs back inside his house, grabs a knife (intention?), runs a considerable distance after him (intention?), stabs him...and gets away with murder.

I didn't detect any remorse from the prick either in his taped interviews - just regret for his brain explosion (losing control of his temper in going after the kid) and where it landed him.

I'm not an advocate for more and more punitive justice or "tougher sentences". But I'd like to see more consistent application of the law

[scumdog]

Why the venom my friend? Had a hard day Christmas shopping?

Little maori kid squiggles on a fence, white middle aged business man runs back inside his house, grabs a knife (intention?), runs a considerable distance after him (intention?), stabs him...and gets away with murder.

And the problem is???

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And the problem is???

So called cops like you are a big part of the problem I'd suggest